A horde or just not discipline formation flying?

[titanic3]

That's actually a really good point.  When nobody defends it's boring for the attackers too. 

Stop dropping the hangars?

[NatCigg]

I must be doing something wrong then... hmmmm   

no, no, the longer you keep that 38 pointing down the sooner my proxie perks go up. 

[Rob52240]

Since vTards often run 20 man Mustang missions where there is no bardar you must be bored a lot.

 
noe is usually a stupid way to attack.
 

[Daddkev]

 

[mbailey]

Hmm Devil Dogs ... Ah Devil Dogs ... Oh Devil Dogs ... Where do I start ...

I know right? they are awesome......big glass of milk...mmmmmmmm

[Oldman731]

I must be doing something wrong then... hmmmm 

Wondered about that myself.  HR taught that you should be under your opponent so you can see which way he breaks after the merge.  Usually works for me.

- oldman (...well...you know...when anything works for me...)

[Butcher]

I can't complain about the V-tard missions - while back I upped a 262 zipping around and ran into a sector that had a full Dar... turns out the Alchemist put 20 51s and 38s up to shut down a Knight field.

9 kills Later - every PM I got I responded "20k wasn't high enough you should of flown higher".

Reason it was only 9 is because air is thinner up there, you compress a little faster - some that dove away didn't escape

[MK-84]

I accidently flew alone with a P40 into a mission of Spitfires upping.

Horde? no horde?  It was one of the most fun AH sorties I've had.

It lasted for me slightly longer than two rabbits fornicating. 

It was still awesome! 

[LilMak]

I can't complain about the V-tard missions - while back I upped a 262 zipping around and ran into a sector that had a full Dar... turns out the Alchemist put 20 51s and 38s up to shut down a Knight field.

9 kills Later - every PM I got I responded "20k wasn't high enough you should of flown higher".

Reason it was only 9 is because air is thinner up there, you compress a little faster - some that dove away didn't escape

Last time I was able to kill 9 of 'em and their ords they still had enough hordelings left to close and take the base I was defending. Might have been able to get more but base ack hit my fuel tank as I gunned down the bunkers. Maybe it's time for me to start some serious recruiting. If I had a couple friends with like minded disdain for the mole squads, I could possibly put some of them out of business. It would probably backfire on me though. The hordelings would probably just start with 70 man missions against undefended territory instead of the standard 20.

[Rob52240]

I think a lot of players forget that we're all amateurs.

As far as 2 missions ignoring each other...  They're all loaded with bombs and not ready to engage each other so of course they fly right on past each other most of the time.  It's actually funny and scary at the same time if you're in one of these missions and see it happen.

[diaster]

Last night the v guys took a base. In the tower i predicted a vbase for their next move. Shiv and I upped and while talking strategy, he said i bet they noe it. we flew to their nearest base and one 47 was up as base. Sure enough as he engaged it, the vbase started flashing and the NOE popped up. I announced an alert on channel and a dozen or so vehicle guys spawned in. Lucky i stayed high and didn't try to steal Shivs kill lol, So I dove down to the horde from the dar ring and guess what was at the rear, two goons. Killed em both... result, mission failed. they tried three times, air to air ratio was about 4 to 1. Our bnz'n plus acks thinned em down thru attrition, they gave up after about 40+ losses, i would guess. The key to beating the horde, is when it gets announced... up right away to meet them. Their will to win is not excessive and they give up if its well defended. Try to predict where they will go next. The v guys like a base with multiple gv spawns out so they can choose the next target. Then, they like to faint alot. They have one guy fly high to make a base blink so as to hide the noe... meanwhile they have a few guys fly at another other base to draw defenders there. When the noe pops at the real target..its too late! soooo look at the map, think like they do and then just wait for them to show. ohh i forgot step one, check the roster for an abundance of Vs, you know a horde is in the prep stages. And if only one or two v guys are at a base you're defending, you can bet they are bait to keep you away from the real mission!
Personally, i find stopping an enemy mission (or horde) extremely gratifying!

[thndregg]

What if the 40 Lancs or various bombers that are hordes, flew in perfect formation? What if the 50 p-51's were organzied into tight 4 ship flights and operated as a cohesive unit? Would it be a horde then?

Usually, what I like to throw together is indeed an organized mission, despite the fact not everyone will fly in perfect textbook formation. I don't really care about that. All I want is for our many boxes of B17's, escorts, and "bad guys" to have a good time duking it out as we make our way to an objective, and they put up a fight to stop us. I like at least some realism, a good fight, a little uncertainty as to how well we survive the sortie, and that all culminates into (hopefully) a lot of fun for everyone involved.

[Helm]

Missions wouldn't be such a bad thing if they fought one another. I watched last night as two missions flew within a half a sector of each other and didn't engage. They were both more concerned about bombing stuff that doesn't shoot back rather than killing each other.

The nature of MA maps favor offense rather than defense because of the short distance between the fields. It might take you 30 minutes or longer to put together a 50 man mission. Since the standard heavy 51 mission (lets say 30 strong) can get to a base and flatten it in ten minutes, the offense has a heavy advantage in numbers on target (lack of time to defend since players aren't waiting in the hangar to see where the mole pops up next) and then sustained cap since the base and town can be closed in a single pass with eggs to spare.

The SOLE purpose of this game is to engage other players in combat. Avoiding head on engagements so you can bomb inanimate objects with impunity and take away any chance the enemy has to defend whatsoever is not in line with the purpose stated above. But it's your fifteen bucks so do what you want.

Whether you fly a tight formation or not is completely irrelevant.

One of the most true posts I have ever read! ...well done


Helm ...out

[ap1102]

one of the most enjoyable missions i remember was at least a year ago when we upped a jabo mission for a base and encountered a large jabo mission NOE to one of our bases. We literally ran into one another.  It turned into an awesome furball with both sides dropping ords at about the same time to engage. Fun when it occurs though it rarely happens.

[whiteman]

Took part in Hurri 1 mission 5 or 6 years ago that had 30 people in it, i think 2 or 3 actually landed. Was a rather fun fighter sweep/joke to partake in. Large SBD/TBM raids use to be fun as well.