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Offline Rob52240

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2012, 08:18:58 AM »
I'm sick of finding enemy carriers by way of canopy pizza while I'm cruising over the ocean at 25k.
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2012, 08:20:46 AM »
I'm sick of finding enemy carriers by way of canopy pizza while I'm cruising over the ocean at 25k.

It is what it is, I learned to simply not fly around water - especially in a perk plane, does matter how high or fast you still get mike tyson'ed by Puffy ack.
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2012, 08:32:05 AM »
LOL A whine I have never heard before has been recorded.

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Why have a feature so many people detest? No one likes wasting their time getting owned by ai

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2012, 08:32:49 AM »
It is what it is, I learned to simply not fly around water - especially in a perk plane, does matter how high or fast you still get mike tyson'ed by Puffy ack.


I never said my complaint was right.  I'm just exercising my right to complain.
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2012, 08:32:56 AM »
Fly 10 formations of buffs over strats... MAYBE get one fuel hit (actually saw a friendly B-29 die to strat ack the other day)

Fly escort for buffs over strats: 3 fighters insta-killed by auto ack.

This isn't a whine, it's an observation.

Also: If friendly puffy is deadly, can it please follow the same killshooter rules the rest of us have to?

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2012, 08:34:22 AM »
LOL A whine I have never heard before has been recorded.

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You're just sore because he called you out on your abysmal documentation.  It's alright, sir... I loathe writing documentation as well.  :salute

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2012, 08:39:12 AM »
We did a nice squad mission to the enemy strats - trying to enjoy the new features.
Our 3 B29's sets made their 2 passes untouched by the puff ack, but the 2 escort P51 died to it, flew 30mins just to get shot by a random IA.

Having such a crappy feature in the game is bad enough - make fun of the players that complain about it tops the tank.

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2012, 08:51:49 AM »
After many times defending Strats/HQ, I can remember only one enemy bomber going down from AI puffy (a B-29, of course).  Lately I am wary of going after them until the "friendly" puffy stops, as it has been fatal to me on many occasions.  Nothing like climbing above a set of 30k bombers and getting insta-towered on your first pass. :bhead
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2012, 09:07:27 AM »
It should be equally dangerous to everyone no matter who they are, what they're flying or how high/fast they're flying.

I'd like to see it changed so that there are actual shells coming from the actual guns (as if a human player were firing). The longer you spend flying a straight line at contant speed, the more accurate the "gunner" becomes. We can still have a field of puffy (since all guns would be firing).
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2012, 09:23:45 AM »
Puffy Ack, since the last update, seems to be less effective on the fighters twisting and turning through it at 30,000 feet since I was able to actually make it through to chase snailman's b29s with a yak.

Sadly, snailman is more dangerous on the defensive B29 guns than the puffy ack.

I've always thought that the puffy ack, as it applies to fighters or bombers, is reversed in that it would allow bombers to bomb the cv and land undamaged while one ping killing a fighter passing overhead at 30,000 feet outside of visual range.

It would be cool to see how it works if the puffy ack modeling for the fighters and bombers swapped places.

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2012, 11:01:23 AM »
Nope, I  never have heard this particular whine, I have heard whines about dieing from puffy ack many times. I have heard a lot of request that puffy ack should kill friendlies (to which I have responded it all ready does) but I have never heard a whine about following an enemy into your own ack, and that the ack is to deadly on the friendly but never hits the enemy and hence please change it to not hit friendlies.

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um hitech a lot of players don't attack buffs in puffy flak because the puffy is more deadly to the fighter attacking the bombers than to the bombers being targeted.

Ive died so much to friendly puffy flak that I avoid friendly carriers as much as enemy carriers.

let me say that again...

I avoid playing on what would be an enjoyable area to experience player vs player combat because of an unenjoyable AI mechanism that governs puffy flak.
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2012, 11:21:28 AM »
 Proxi fuzes cant tell the differance between friend or foe in RL, so why cry.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2012, 11:29:11 AM »
Proxi fuzes cant tell the differance between friend or foe in RL, so why cry.  :rolleyes:

In that case nobody would intercept buffs heading towards a CV since its suicide. Whats point of having CV's or Combat air Patrol?

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I have an idea, tonight I am going to fly some missions over friendly CV's and enemies (ill ask someone where their CV is and simply jsut do so fly overs) and film it. Different Alts, planes etc.

« Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 11:40:32 AM by Butcher »
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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2012, 12:09:51 PM »
In that case nobody would intercept buffs heading towards a CV since its suicide. Whats point of having CV's or Combat air Patrol?

when i was playing our squad regularly flew cover for CV's and i think of the hundreds of times we did it only a few of us got popped by it, not enough to say get rid of it. after all whats wrong with a little realism, fratricide did happen.

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Re: Computer controlled 5" puffy should not damage friendly aircraft
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2012, 12:25:56 PM »
hundreds of times we did it only a few of us got popped by it, not enough to say get rid of it.

A little realism would be just fine, I am not asking to get rid of it completely, just be looked into. If HTC comes back and says its fine, then so be it.

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