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Offline MrRiplEy[H]

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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2012, 11:14:35 AM »
yes. I've tried both ways and get the same errors. And tried several fixes I've found online but none have worked. That is on my desktop. I m gonna try it on my laptop today.

Which ATI card do you have? Also note that there are two options, usually the 'post release updates' one doesn't work.
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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2012, 11:18:00 AM »
Which ATI card do you have? Also note that there are two options, usually the 'post release updates' one doesn't work.

6950 2gb... xfx overclocked version if that matters. On my laptop I installed ubuntu and now my wireless internet doesn't connect. It shows the connection but will not connect to the internet.  :bhead My laptop also has a dedicated ati card so hopefully that wont be an issue. It also has an onboard video card as well.

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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2012, 11:45:01 AM »
6950 2gb... xfx overclocked version if that matters. On my laptop I installed ubuntu and now my wireless internet doesn't connect. It shows the connection but will not connect to the internet.  :bhead My laptop also has a dedicated ati card so hopefully that wont be an issue. It also has an onboard video card as well.

And you're not installing Ubuntu version from 2001? How can you be so unlucky with hardware. I've done plenty of installs on several different machines and never run into that sort of problems with it.
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« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2012, 11:50:15 AM »
And you're not installing Ubuntu version from 2001? How can you be so unlucky with hardware. I've done plenty of installs on several different machines and never run into that sort of problems with it.
ubuntu 12.10 from the windows installer. A new problem with my laptop, when I install the proprietary drivers for my ati card and reboot like it asks, my desktop is now blank. No top or side bars, just the background image. I can cntl+alt+t and get the terminal to pop up but everything else has disappeared. I disabled the drivers and rebooted again and same problem. So now I have uninstalled ubuntu yet again and I am starting over with a fresh copy to try once more. I dont know why I am having such bad luck but it is really frustrating. Like I said before I really really want to give ubuntu a chance. I wonder if the windows installer is hurting me somehow?

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« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2012, 12:13:59 PM »
ubuntu 12.10 from the windows installer. A new problem with my laptop, when I install the proprietary drivers for my ati card and reboot like it asks, my desktop is now blank. No top or side bars, just the background image. I can cntl+alt+t and get the terminal to pop up but everything else has disappeared. I disabled the drivers and rebooted again and same problem. So now I have uninstalled ubuntu yet again and I am starting over with a fresh copy to try once more. I dont know why I am having such bad luck but it is really frustrating. Like I said before I really really want to give ubuntu a chance. I wonder if the windows installer is hurting me somehow?

If you get the blank desktop most likely your window decorator has crashed. Did you perhaps try to enable compiz effects such as wobbly windows etc? :) This can be solved by typing sudo unity --restart in the terminal. If I were you I'd download and install Xubuntu which is much lighter and better than the Unity based Ubuntu.
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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #95 on: December 04, 2012, 12:16:43 PM »
If you get the blank desktop most likely your window decorator has crashed. Did you perhaps try to enable compiz effects such as wobbly windows etc? :) This can be solved by typing sudo unity --restart in the terminal. If I were you I'd download and install Xubuntu which is much lighter and better than the Unity based Ubuntu.

nope, i havent gotten as far as installing compiz. literally as soon as I activated the drivers and reset the desktop was gone. I will search for xubuntu now. thanks

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« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2012, 12:33:49 PM »
nope, i havent gotten as far as installing compiz. literally as soon as I activated the drivers and reset the desktop was gone. I will search for xubuntu now. thanks

Oh, and do not get the latest version, get the 12.04 LTS version untill you learn to do basic tinkering with it. Also it's safer to choose the 32-bit version instead of 64-bit. For desktop it's better and linux can handle 64 gigs of ram even using the 32-bit version. It has a functional PAE. I would also burn the .iso to a dvd and install it the regular way instead of messing with wubi installs. They're nothing but trouble really.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 12:37:21 PM by MrRiplEy[H] »
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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2012, 12:40:02 PM »
You may want to give Linux Mint 13 Mate edition a try.

If it were me I would disable the ATI card on the laptop and see what happens. Might have better luck.

Edit: I would also follow Ripley's advice.
« Last Edit: December 04, 2012, 12:44:42 PM by edog1977 »

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« Reply #98 on: December 06, 2012, 09:54:48 PM »
Well, looks like I am an ubuntu 12.04 user on my laptop. My install from a bootable dvd went horribly wrong and screwed up my W7 Pro boot and recovery partition and I do not have a recovery disk. I was able to take apart my laptop and put the HDD in my hotswap bay on my desktop. Windows device manager would see the drive but it showed as invalid and I could not access anything on it. I booted my desktop to ubuntu and luckily all of my files and pictures were still on the drive. I copied them to an external drive and now have a clean full install of ubuntu 12.04lts on my laptop.  :frown: I am hoping I can call HP and see if they will send me a recovery disk. If not I will buy an OEM copy of W7 Pro and a 500gb SSD to go along with it. I should have just left well enough alone  :lol :bhead

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« Reply #99 on: December 07, 2012, 12:15:45 AM »
Well, looks like I am an ubuntu 12.04 user on my laptop. My install from a bootable dvd went horribly wrong and screwed up my W7 Pro boot and recovery partition and I do not have a recovery disk. I was able to take apart my laptop and put the HDD in my hotswap bay on my desktop. Windows device manager would see the drive but it showed as invalid and I could not access anything on it. I booted my desktop to ubuntu and luckily all of my files and pictures were still on the drive. I copied them to an external drive and now have a clean full install of ubuntu 12.04lts on my laptop.  :frown: I am hoping I can call HP and see if they will send me a recovery disk. If not I will buy an OEM copy of W7 Pro and a 500gb SSD to go along with it. I should have just left well enough alone  :lol :bhead

How did you manage to do that? Ubuntu automatically detects that you have windows installed and will offer to repartition and resize your hdd. If you chose to install over the existing partition without preserving windows, that would create the situation you're in now.
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« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2012, 06:03:53 AM »
How did you manage to do that? Ubuntu automatically detects that you have windows installed and will offer to repartition and resize your hdd. If you chose to install over the existing partition without preserving windows, that would create the situation you're in now.

for some reason the install did not give me the options to install next to windows like I see it seems everyone else has. It told me I already had multiple operating systems installed.  I only had two options, install over windows or try something else. I am thinking its because my HDD already had 4 partitions just from the factory installed crap. I went back into windows and shrank my c drive down to free up empty space for ubuntu. I went back into the installer and selected the free space for the install as well as for swap. All goes well until in the middle of install I get an ubuntu error message about one of the partitions and it tells me to reboot before going further. I reboot and poof, windows gets a BSD during the welcome screen. My recovery partition is now no longer accessible in the repair screen. I'm just happy I could get my files off. I finally got wine installed and it will install my plc programming software for work but it wont run it. So I guess I need windows after all. 

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« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2012, 06:13:37 AM »
for some reason the install did not give me the options to install next to windows like I see it seems everyone else has. It told me I already had multiple operating systems installed.  I only had two options, install over windows or try something else. I am thinking its because my HDD already had 4 partitions just from the factory installed crap. I went back into windows and shrank my c drive down to free up empty space for ubuntu. I went back into the installer and selected the free space for the install as well as for swap. All goes well until in the middle of install I get an ubuntu error message about one of the partitions and it tells me to reboot before going further. I reboot and poof, windows gets a BSD during the welcome screen. My recovery partition is now no longer accessible in the repair screen. I'm just happy I could get my files off. I finally got wine installed and it will install my plc programming software for work but it wont run it. So I guess I need windows after all.  

You should obviously have chosen 'install them side by side detecting the windows installation' then it takes you to the partitioning tool where you can choose a partition or repartition and format your drive, then set the required partition as root and setup continues from there. Of course if you choose 'erase and use entire disk' it's going to kill your windows installation. Or if you chose to format the ntfs partition instead of splitting it and resizing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Jxfj6tu_U <-- setup as video instructions.
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Re: Ubuntu
« Reply #102 on: December 07, 2012, 07:00:46 AM »
You should obviously have chosen 'install them side by side detecting the windows installation' then it takes you to the partitioning tool where you can choose a partition or repartition and format your drive, then set the required partition as root and setup continues from there. Of course if you choose 'erase and use entire disk' it's going to kill your windows installation. Or if you chose to format the ntfs partition instead of splitting it and resizing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Jxfj6tu_U <-- setup as video instructions.
again. The install side by side was not an option or that would have been what I chose. I obviously would not choose to erase the entire disk. I chose the free space I made on drive. It was NOT ntfs space.

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« Reply #103 on: December 07, 2012, 07:50:36 AM »
again. The install side by side was not an option or that would have been what I chose. I obviously would not choose to erase the entire disk. I chose the free space I made on drive. It was NOT ntfs space.

If you installed to the free space your windows partition is still there and all you need to do is set up a boot manager which lets you choose windows or ubuntu during the boot. It seems you skipped this part in the installation. Try using boot-repair as instructed here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139121/grub-rescue-after-install-of-ubuntu-12-04-dual-boot

If boot repair alone won't fix your problem additional info can be found here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringWindows#Resizing%20Windows%20Vista%20/%207%20Partitions

It's completely useless to use windows for any disk related actions, it will just report any linux partitions as 'invalid' and 'unknown' as it is limited to windows filesystems only. The error message you saw during installation may have been due to having not enough space on the install partition.
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« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2012, 11:01:45 PM »
Just a side note, if you're running Ubuntu, you should adjust privacy settings

http://www.fsf.org/blogs/rms/ubuntu-spyware-what-to-do