How low can the Taliban go?

[coombz]

Yeah  you know since  the us typicaly deals in Soviet equipment. Also I widhsh you US haters would watch a little documentary calle " The world without US" and see what people i Kuwait, Bosnina, Kosovo,   Korea nad other countires think of our presance, and what they think of the European countries. Also Coombzy  you MUST be at work.

Soviet equipment? I don't know about that, or what it has to do with the help the US gave to Iraq in the past when it suited them.

Although didn't the US help arm Afghans so they could better fight the Soviets during the Cold War kind of era?

gg

why do you care if I'm at work or not?  

[Rich46yo]

The US didn't help arm Iraq, it was Saddam's fairy godmother

Saddam's largest weapons suppliers was the Soviets and the French. We did two things for Saddam back during his war with Iran, and slightly after. First off, and maybe you weren't alive back then, to have Iran win against Iraq would have been a disaster for the Gulf Arabs, the West in general, and America. So we supplied Saddam with satellite imagery on the disposition of Iranian forces. And we sold the Iraqi's a small amount of non-militarized helicopters and trucks.

But go for it. Name me one major military system we sold to Saddam and the Iraqi's.

[coombz]

I didn't say anything about selling, you actually gave them money as well as helping to arm them  same deal as with Afghanistan, you give them weapons to fight people you don't want to gain power, and then they turn into enemies themselves further down the line and kill you with the weapons you gave them, a beautiful cycle of idiocy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

gee that was hard to find

here is a particular gem:

"On February 9th, 1994, Senator Riegle delivered a report -commonly known as the Riegle Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riegle_Report- in which it was stated that "pathogenic (meaning 'disease producing'), toxigenic (meaning 'poisonous'), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."[29]

The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Bacillus anthracis) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."[30]

[Nathan60]

Soviet equipment? I don't know about that, or what it has to do with the help the US gave to Iraq in the past when it suited them.

Although didn't the US help arm Afghans so they could better fight the Soviets during the Cold War kind of era?

gg

why do you care if I'm at work or not?  

Just sayin your awful productive and thats your favorite time to troll.  The us did help arm some afgans with stingers. Why so aggressive?  And everyone knows  that  Iraq has the iowa strain of antrax, know n that since the envolpese were mailed out post 9/11. Spores are completely different than a t-62 tho,. Stop hating  not like England never had to fight somone they armed. Igf the brits hadnt have  gotten kicked out of the Middle east we wouldnt be in this mess.

[coombz]

uhh yeah I've got better things to do when I'm not at work than post on internet forums 

[Nathan60]

uhh yeah I've got better things to do when I'm not at work than post on internet forums  

Who doesnt,  is it a heavy flow day youre really cranky today. Dont worry with age and maturity will come the ability to have a bad day and not be a dick.

[coombz]

perhaps you're just feeling extra sensitive, I haven't posted anything aggressive at all. I haven't even got around to calling you stupid yet  having a bad day? dude, I'm in the future it's Friday here That makes it a very good day. not to mention the new Xcom game is out

Stop hating  not like England never had to fight somone they armed. Igf the brits hadnt have  gotten kicked out of the Middle east we wouldnt be in this mess.

I didn't say anything, and never have, about England being perfect or guiltless or anything of the sort. Just because you guys get all pissy when someone insults your precious home country doesn't mean everyone is so blindly patriotic.

I think the Russians and the Americans should have learned from the English example of getting the crap kicked out of them in Afghanistan and left well alone

[Nathan60]

perhaps you're just feeling extra sensitive, I haven't posted anything aggressive at all. I haven't even got around to calling you stupid yet

Look my day is over and Im going home  lets agree to disagree on how much your flowing today ok? And its all Englads fault for letting the Empire be taken away from them. So take a Midol get a cup of tea  and trey to get some work done slacker.

[Nathan60]

perhaps you're just feeling extra sensitive, I haven't posted anything aggressive at all. I haven't even got around to calling you stupid yet  having a bad day? dude, I'm in the future it's Friday here That makes it a very good day. not to mention the new Xcom game is out

I didn't say anything, and never have, about England being perfect or guiltless or anything of the sort. Just because you guys get all pissy when someone insults your precious home country doesn't mean everyone is so blindly patriotic.

I think the Russians and the Americans should have learned from the English example of getting the crap kicked out of them in Afghanistan and left well alone

Missed that  how is the new game I am jeally. I have the old xcom games and loved em

[Rino]

In an execution style? Then to  boldy say "yeah we did it"

     Not only did they claim credit, but they said if she survives, they will try again.

[coombz]

Missed that  how is the new game I am jeally. I have the old xcom games and loved em

Seems really good so far, finally an xcom sequel worthy of the name!

Nothing like getting attached to your soldiers and then watching them have their guts ripped out by a Chrysalid, or getting shot in the face by a panicked rookie 

[Rich46yo]

Boy thats weak? Wikipedia ? I already told you we supported Saddam but not by selling him weaponry. What aid we gave him was almost all food aid. The cash to buy weapons was given by his Arab brothers, one of whom he later invaded. His largest suppliers of dual use technology for his Chem/Bio programs were the Soviets and West Europe. Its true pvt American companies were also cleared to sell him some. Equipment to make vaccines can also be used for weapons.

To think we sold him WMDs is insane. In fact your entire accusations are insane. Why is it Kiwis have become rumor central with anti-American propaganda? The French alone sold Saddams Billions of $$ in weaponry. In fact their Mirage and missile sales probably saved him from losing to the Iranians. And supporting several Mujahadeen groups helped bring down the Soviet Union. Maybe your to young to remember that bunch, or the threat to the free world they were. Even with the Mujahadeen we didnt support them blindly. We avoided the fundamentalist groups that were anti-west.

I suggest getting off Wikipedia, buying some history books, and start learning to be objective. I really cant waste my time going on like this with you.

I didn't say anything about selling, you actually gave them money as well as helping to arm them  same deal as with Afghanistan, you give them weapons to fight people you don't want to gain power, and then they turn into enemies themselves further down the line and kill you with the weapons you gave them, a beautiful cycle of idiocy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

gee that was hard to find

here is a particular gem:

"On February 9th, 1994, Senator Riegle delivered a report -commonly known as the Riegle Report http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riegle_Report- in which it was stated that "pathogenic (meaning 'disease producing'), toxigenic (meaning 'poisonous'), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."[29]

The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Bacillus anthracis) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."[30]

[TonyJoey]

Uhhm, am I the only one who noticed someone advocating the extermination of all Muslims? Skuzzy?

[Ack-Ack]

Boy thats weak? Wikipedia ? I already told you we supported Saddam but not by selling him weaponry. What aid we gave him was almost all food aid. The cash to buy weapons was given by his Arab brothers, one of whom he later invaded. His largest suppliers of dual use technology for his Chem/Bio programs were the Soviets and West Europe. Its true pvt American companies were also cleared to sell him some. Equipment to make vaccines can also be used for weapons.

We gave more than "food aid".  We removed Iraq as "State Sponsor of Terrorism" in order to ease the transfer of "dual use technology" and the CIA covertly directed armaments and high tech components to Iraq through false fronts and friendly countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Kuwait. 

The US government never directly supplied Iraq during the Iran-Iraq War, we used proxies and false fronts.

ack-ack

[Plawranc]

Bottom line is.

This whole situation is a case of "Dr Frankenstein Disorder"

You created your own monster to serve your purposes, and now its turned on you because perhaps they have freedom of thought, something America never accounts for.

And another thing, while these men are my enemy and I warrant their extermination as much as everyone else here. I am going to ask the question.

What did we expect when we invaded their homes, gunned down, bombed and burned their men women and children by the thousands, with weapons so powerful that it is not a case of war , but a case of eradication?

They are not extremist, they are desperate, they have no other way of hitting back, their only option is to shock the US people into withdrawal. But of course, America with its customary grace, doesn't get sentimental about such things, it gets angry, and drops more bombs.

^^^^^

How low can the Taliban go? A LOT lower than this... as can the United States.