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Offline Stalwart

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #60 on: October 24, 2012, 10:22:41 PM »
He has the right not to answer. What about that? Not to mention he did nothing wrong or they would not have let him go.

Maybe so, but he was still a dick about it.

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #61 on: October 24, 2012, 10:48:30 PM »
He has the right not to answer. What about that? Not to mention he did nothing wrong or they would not have let him go.

 i'm trying to be careful. i've been doing good being nicer.

 but if i were that second cop, i'd have had him out of that truck as soon as he said he wanted to take the 5th. he was being a hassle right from the get go. then he acts in ways that could easily be interpreted as suspicious by those police. then he pleads the 5th when asked if he has anything illegal in the truck. that's more than enough reason to have him out, the truck off to the side, and the entire load searched.

 i fully understand standing up for ones rights, but you need to pick your battles....and picking that battle right there could have gone very very bad for him. does he really think those guys want to be there doing that? i highly doubt it.
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #62 on: October 24, 2012, 11:02:51 PM »
Maybe so, but he was still a dick about it.
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #63 on: October 24, 2012, 11:23:05 PM »
i'm trying to be careful. i've been doing good being nicer.

 but if i were that second cop, i'd have had him out of that truck as soon as he said he wanted to take the 5th. he was being a hassle right from the get go. then he acts in ways that could easily be interpreted as suspicious by those police. then he pleads the 5th when asked if he has anything illegal in the truck. that's more than enough reason to have him out, the truck off to the side, and the entire load searched.

 i fully understand standing up for ones rights, but you need to pick your battles....and picking that battle right there could have gone very very bad for him. does he really think those guys want to be there doing that? i highly doubt it.
Yessir

He has the right not to answer. What about that? Not to mention he did nothing wrong or they would not have let him go.
They also have the right to arrest him for obstruction. He was obstructing them from doing their job and keeping the border secure. All this video does is show folks how to get across the border without being searched.
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #64 on: October 24, 2012, 11:36:10 PM »
Yessir
They also have the right to arrest him for obstruction. He was obstructing them from doing their job and keeping the border secure. All this video does is show folks how to get across the border without being searched.
if they had a right to arrest don't you think they would have?

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2012, 12:02:09 AM »
Or, maybe if we had a free press that was the watchdog for the people, maybe that would make a difference too.

Certainly having an effective free press is essential to a functioning democracy, in fact I would say one of the challenges our country faces is the decline of the newspapers and there ability to cover local government.  A lot of stuff happens at city council meetings and hearings, stuff that needs sunlight.
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #66 on: October 25, 2012, 12:21:24 AM »
Yessir
They also have the right to arrest him for obstruction. He was obstructing them from doing their job and keeping the border secure. All this video does is show folks how to get across the border without being searched.

This was 30 miles inland from the border.

How far past the border would a person need to be to not be guilty of obstructing "keeping the border secure"?

50 miles?
100miles?
500 miles?

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #67 on: October 25, 2012, 01:42:23 AM »
In the UK they are passing a law to allow the police and government to view all internet traffic. :)

we have lots of cameras in Britain to view the public. :)

The reason for this is that the powers that be know that when the "Recession" properly takes hold there will be civilian unrest. :)

Oh by the the recession has not even started yet :rofl

The middle classes will have to blame someone for there woes, because they have portfolios, who will it be this time?

The working classes don't matter they are watching the X factor and repeats of Bonanza :)
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #68 on: October 25, 2012, 04:28:07 AM »
This was 30 miles inland from the border.

How far past the border would a person need to be to not be guilty of obstructing "keeping the border secure"?

50 miles?
100miles?
500 miles?

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #69 on: October 25, 2012, 06:15:16 AM »
He has the right not to answer. What about that? Not to mention he did nothing wrong or they would not have let him go.

Of course he has the right, but that is not the point. I consider it common courtesy - the driver just wanted to be argumentative. If he lives down in that area, he should know just as well as anyone why those checkpoints are necessary.
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #70 on: October 25, 2012, 07:33:07 AM »
Of course he has the right, but that is not the point. I consider it common courtesy - the driver just wanted to be argumentative. If he lives down in that area, he should know just as well as anyone why those checkpoints are necessary.
Talk to the TSA about common courtesy.

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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #71 on: October 25, 2012, 08:10:57 AM »
   He has issues with Border policy so he takes it out on some poor souls who have no control over it.  :rolleyes: They had to determine if he was a smuggler or just a Dick. They let him go so they know.

   Lets all be jerks to each other it makes for such a lovely world don't it.  :noid

    
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Re: "Am I free to go?"
« Reply #72 on: October 25, 2012, 08:51:35 AM »
If the easy, trouble-free response "Yes I am an American citizen." is all that is required to pass this checkpoint then would a sign prominently displayed stating as much should be sufficient to pass?

Of course not.

If a "canned answer" is all that is required then this is a pointless exercise in "border security" that is easily bypassed by the bad guys and serves no purpose.


How far should we allow authority to get out of hand before it is an issue?

Would this far be too far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

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