"Am I free to go?"

[pembquist]

You can call the guy a dick but I think that without his kind of outraged nuttiness the "organs of the state" would have no check on them as most people obey authority and don't push back until problems reach a crisis.

[Shuffler]

You can call the guy a dick but I think that without his kind of outraged nuttiness the "organs of the state" would have no check on them as most people obey authority and don't push back until problems reach a crisis.

You should obey authority. If the authority gets out of hand then there is an issue.

This is not one of those times. He should have been pulled to the side and inspected thouroughly since he seemed to have so much extra time.

[JimmyC]

why...for driving legitimately in the land of the free?

[coombz]

why...for driving legitimately in the land of the free?

You should always obey authority Jimmy! Nothing bad can ever happen to you if you always obey authority!


Sadly I can't say what I would like to say in this thread because I would immediately have to slap myself with a Godwin's Law injunction =D

[whiteman]

drove through about  10 of these last month on a trip, i think i spent less than a minute combined going through all of them. don't be a dick.

[Rich46yo]

The driver being a dick bothers you more than a Gestapo checkpoint?

The Gestapo arrested people for no reason and sent them to death camps where they were gassed and then burned in crematoriums.

Maybe you never read a history book.

[Sundowner]

If the easy, trouble-free response "Yes I am an American citizen." is all that is required to pass this checkpoint then would a sign prominently displayed stating as much should be sufficient to pass?

Of course not.

If a "canned answer" is all that is required then this is a pointless exercise in "border security" that is easily bypassed by the bad guys and serves no purpose.

You should obey authority. If the authority gets out of hand then there is an issue.

This is not one of those times. He should have been pulled to the side and inspected thouroughly since he seemed to have so much extra time.

How far should we allow authority to get out of hand before it is an issue?

Would this far be too far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

Regards,
Sun

[Slash27]

definitely a dickhead showing how much of a dickhead he could be...it's a trend that is going to end in an incident that will bring out the whiners screaming injustice. it would have been a lot more entertaining if a state trooper walked up to the car, tased his bellybutton then dragged him from the car.

Of course. I mean he did nothing illegal but by all means he should be shown the Gov runs his life and any resistance should be put down with immediate force.

The Gestapo arrested people for no reason and sent them to death camps where they were gassed and then burned in crematoriums.

Maybe you never read a history book.

Maybe I have and that's my problem sheep.

[NatCigg]

so is it impossible to have effective border security without violating those precious rights that Americans are always banging on about?

you can't have secure borders and good homeland security without illegally searching and detaining your own citizens?  

dude...really?

Id like c mob to go live near the mexican border. then lets see what you think about a checkpoint. Also, we americans give up many of our rights when on the road.  in my state we won the right to not wear a helmant when on a bike. men have died free.

[coombz]

free to not wear a helmet on the road

they died as they lived...stupidly

[B4Buster]

The driver's sole intention was to cause grief to the border agents, hence the recording camera. I was hoping to see them yank him out of the vehicle by his nose.

If he can not answer a simple yes/no question on whether he is an American citizen or not, then he should not be granted the privileges of one.

[Slash27]

The driver's sole intention was to cause grief to the border agents, hence the recording camera. I was hoping to see them yank him out of the vehicle by his nose.

If he can not answer a simple yes/no question on whether he is an American citizen or not, then he should not be granted the privileges of one.

He has the right not to answer. What about that? Not to mention he did nothing wrong or they would not have let him go.

[JimmyC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIVHNylH1Mk

[Stalwart]

You can call the guy a dick but I think that without his kind of outraged nuttiness the "organs of the state" would have no check on them as most people obey authority and don't push back until problems reach a crisis.

Or, maybe if we had a free press that was the watchdog for the people, maybe that would make a difference too.

[Stalwart]

If the easy, trouble-free response "Yes I am an American citizen." is all that is required to pass this checkpoint then would a sign prominently displayed stating as much should be sufficient to pass?

Of course not.

If a "canned answer" is all that is required then this is a pointless exercise in "border security" that is easily bypassed by the bad guys and serves no purpose.


How far should we allow authority to get out of hand before it is an issue?

Would this far be too far?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy7FVXERKFE

Regards,
Sun

I am not a law enforcement officer or a lawyer, but I have an opinion.

Maybe simply asking the question produces a tremendous range of responses in people, and certain responses are indicative of criminal activity.  Maybe all they are looking for is these types of reactions.  So, the exercise is not pointless.

 
Why all the outrage over this jerk's video when the border patrol is doing an important and dangerous job.

Why not direct this outrage at the TSA which is CLEARLY overstepping their authority?
If this jerk tried the same move at airport security I have no doubt he would have been arrested.