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Offline DREDIOCK

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Damn video card crapped out
« on: December 02, 2012, 01:31:34 AM »
8800Gt went haywire on me right in the middle of a fight

Ok whats a decent upgrade without breaking the bank?
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 02:17:20 AM »
PCIe? AGPx8? What power supply? What CPU will it run alongside?

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 04:58:27 AM »
8800Gt went haywire on me right in the middle of a fight

Ok whats a decent upgrade without breaking the bank?

It depends on your bank. How much are you prepared to spend? For 200 bucks you can get something that you can play with for the next 2 years in double digit fps.
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2012, 08:46:19 AM »
Those 8800 were crap in the first place. I'm not sure what not breaking the bank is but I went with a 660 TI. Quite happy I did.

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2012, 09:09:27 AM »
 I had posted a while back about upgrading the card when the newest version of AH came out  because I wasnt able to run the game with the level of detail I wanted. Turned out MY AV wasnt running in gamer mode like it was supposed to all the time. Anywho.
I was running with this setup with most settings near maxed out and shadows on  and would only get some occasional stuttering in huge furballs with frame rates that ranged from 40-70 FPS.

Lately it had gotten a bit worse but I thought it was my connection. Last night had two kills in the bag and was going for an easy 3rd when the screen went all blocky. Rebooting only produced very lovely but unwelcome colored green vertical lines evenly spaced across my screen.
 Thankfully I have like 4 old but working machines here and one happened to have a 256 meg Nvidia GEForce 6200 card as my motherboard only supports VGA and my monitor doesnt LOL

ANYWAY
Here is what I have. Im planning on upgrading to Windows 7 or 8 in the not too distant future if I need to

Case - Rosewill R5605-BK.                                                                            
Motherboard - GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775                                            
CPU - Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz.                                                
Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Black WD7501AALS 750GB.                              
Video Card - EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB.                              
Power supply - PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS750QBL 750W                              
Memory - Kingston HyperX 4GB (4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066              
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2012, 09:20:52 AM »
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html

Take a look, it's always updated every month so it should be always up to date.

I personally would go for a 7870 if I can.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 09:24:44 AM by titanic3 »

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 09:24:54 AM »
I have an 8800 GTS here. $30 and I'll ship it to you if you want. Let me know.

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2012, 09:27:07 AM »
Those 8800 were crap in the first place. I'm not sure what not breaking the bank is but I went with a 660 TI. Quite happy I did.

That wasnt the general consensus here 4 1/2 years ago. And quite honestly. I've been pretty pleased with its performance. In fact someone here told me I shouldnt be able to run the game well at the in game settings I had when the latest version of AH came out. And I probably shouldnt have been able to.
But It did.

Its was a bang for buck build
I usually figure a system will last me 5 years before I could use a total rebuild after  upgrading teh video card at least once. But for what I do now (AH is really the only game I play). This should still last me a while yet. Still. Im almost surprised I havent had to upgrade the card sooner
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2012, 09:34:28 AM »
I have an 8800 GTS here. $30 and I'll ship it to you if you want. Let me know.

Let me consider that as an option. (in other words . Dont sell it yet LOL)

Let me see whats out there first and let me weigh the pros and cons.

Thank you very much for the offer
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2012, 10:16:09 AM »
That wasnt the general consensus here 4 1/2 years ago. And quite honestly. I've been pretty pleased with its performance. In fact someone here told me I shouldnt be able to run the game well at the in game settings I had when the latest version of AH came out. And I probably shouldnt have been able to.
But It did.

Its was a bang for buck build
I usually figure a system will last me 5 years before I could use a total rebuild after  upgrading teh video card at least once. But for what I do now (AH is really the only game I play). This should still last me a while yet. Still. Im almost surprised I havent had to upgrade the card sooner
I used a 8800gt for a long time myself.I used a late model so it was close to a 9800. The older 8800 when they came out were were a good card and very popular.
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2012, 10:40:11 AM »
I would switch the power supply to a Seasonic brand.  PC Power & Cooling no longer makes power supplies.  They are just a name now and OCZ (owner of the PC P&C name) will milk it until they no longer make any difference in sales.
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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2012, 12:08:27 PM »
I've got an xfx 6950 2gb ill sell ya

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2012, 01:54:56 PM »
I would switch the power supply to a Seasonic brand.  PC Power & Cooling no longer makes power supplies.  They are just a name now and OCZ (owner of the PC P&C name) will milk it until they no longer make any difference in sales.

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2012, 04:19:29 PM »
Drediock: I have almost exactly the same system as you: 3GHz E8400 on a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L MB (I think even the RAM is identical).  I just upgraded from an HD4850 to an MSI R7870 GPU.  I was not impressed.  I can set the GPU to very high antialiasing (4x SSAA) without any fps penalty, but the absolute fps, on certain terrains or with lots of planes/vehicles in view, are not that much better than the old 4850 and sometimes fall to 30 fps.  The performance is odd: it is so-so no matter what options I select for eye-candy in AH (except environment, which kills fps).  Also, the load balancing between the two cores of the CPU is odd; one pegs at nearly 100% while the other coasts at 25%.  With the old card (and old drivers) the second CPU was used more.  The 7870 had just as many, if not more, artifacts as the 4850 had, including z-fighting (seeing the interior textures of distant barns when you should be seeing the outside, seeing the road through maprooms etc.)  The only good thing the R7870 has going for it is it is much cooler and quieter than my old 4850 (it's pretty much silent compared to my case fans).

So I guess this would be a negative recommendation for the R7870.

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Re: Damn video card crapped out
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 04:25:41 PM »
Drediock: I have almost exactly the same system as you: 3GHz E8400 on a GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L MB (I think even the RAM is identical).  I just upgraded from an HD4850 to an MSI R7870 GPU.  I was not impressed.  I can set the GPU to very high antialiasing (4x SSAA) without any fps penalty, but the absolute fps, on certain terrains or with lots of planes/vehicles in view, are not that much better than the old 4850 and sometimes fall to 30 fps.  The performance is odd: it is so-so no matter what options I select for eye-candy in AH (except environment, which kills fps).  Also, the load balancing between the two cores of the CPU is odd; one pegs at nearly 100% while the other coasts at 25%.  With the old card (and old drivers) the second CPU was used more.  The 7870 had just as many, if not more, artifacts as the 4850 had, including z-fighting (seeing the interior textures of distant barns when you should be seeing the outside, seeing the road through maprooms etc.)  The only good thing the R7870 has going for it is it is much cooler and quieter than my old 4850 (it's pretty much silent compared to my case fans).

So I guess this would be a negative recommendation for the R7870.

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AH is extremely reliant on CPU. Check out my thread and how I figured it out.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?topic=341708.0

If you had played other games, ones that utilizes theGPU to its max potential, you would've seen a much better FPS.

I upgraded from a Radeon 5570 to a 6870 (slightly slower than a 7870), and my FPS in AH did not improve at all. My FPS in other games (Battlefield 3, Rise of Flight, Crysis/Crysis 2, etc etc) did, from 20-30FPS on low at lowered resolution to 60FPS on max settings at 1080p.

I had a Core2Duo E7500 as well. I then went to a Q9550 @2.83Ghz. My FPS in AH jumped. I could set every detail on and still have 30+ FPS in conjunction with my 6870 (but in a remote area with only 1 or 2 planes around). However, I prefer to have a solid 60fps through out (even in big 30+ players areas), so I lowered the unnecessary details.

TLDR: AH is 75% CPU 25% GPU. Upgrading your GPU isn't going to do much. However, if you play other games, then it is a very well spent investment and a 7870 is a very good card.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2012, 04:35:03 PM by titanic3 »

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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