I love the 410!!!!

[GScholz]

A Zeke can't zoom climb faster than the 410 and if it just continues to climb when the 410 comes at it it will die. You can't out climb those MK 103s.

[GScholz]

You know, the A6M2 and M3 (and arguably even the M5b) doesn't have all that much better climb rate than the 410, and the 410 is significantly faster at all altitudes.

[Karnak]

In my experience the Me410 climbs at about 2100fpm, well below any other fighter.  I may be remember it with the BK5 though.

EDIT:

Per the AH performance charts the Me410 and A6M2 climb about the same.  The A6M3 and A6M5 both out climb the Me410 by a useful, though not dominating, margin.

[GScholz]

Yes, I was looking at the charts as well. In a B&Z / E battle the Zeke, in particular the M2, would be at a disadvantage against the 410. A slight climb advantage in the later models does not make up for those very significant disadvantages in speed, firepower and ability to take damage. To be realistic, a fight between these two aircraft would end in a series of HOs where the Zeke gets to chose to evade and allow the 410 to make a slashing attack, or face overwhelming firepower head on.

[Karnak]

GScholz,

How do you see the Me410 doing against the Mossie VI, P-38G, P-38J or P-38L?  My estimation puts the Me410 in mortal danger against any of those and Torquila sees them as only moderate threats.  I think the Bf110G-2 also has the advantage, though not as steep as the others.

[GScholz]

Depends greatly on the situation (obviously). In a 1-on-1 co-alt, co-E, equal skill situation the 410 would be at a significant disadvantage against any of those fighters except the 38G, to the point of the outcome almost being a forgone conclusion.

[GScholz]

I would put the 110G and P-38G in the same slot on the threat board. I guess we are pretty much in agreement.

[Karnak]

Yeah, the 38G isn't like the other P-38s.  I was at about 4,000ft providing CAP for some of our tanks that had been under A-20G attack in the Mossie VI when a P-38 bounced me.  I saw him at about 2000 yards and given he was diving on me anticipated a hard, uphill fight to win.  Then the icon resolved the version and my thought was something like "Oh, a P-38G.  No problem."  I shot it down about 10-15 seconds later.

[GScholz]

 

[mbailey]

Anyone got any vids of killing buffs in the 410, would be intrested in seeing them   

[Lusche]

Anything specific you are looking for? I have a lot, but most are very boring - the 'parking 1K behind a set of Lancs and blasting away' type...

[Torquila]

I think thats pretty much what he means, ive got a few; I will go searching for them!

[Ack-Ack]

GScholz,

How do you see the Me410 doing against the Mossie VI, P-38G, P-38J or P-38L?  My estimation puts the Me410 in mortal danger against any of those and Torquila sees them as only moderate threats.  I think the Bf110G-2 also has the advantage, though not as steep as the others.

A P-38J dominates the Me 410 so much so that the Me 410's only hope is to catch the P-38J pilot completely unaware.  Even with pilots of equal skill, the Me 410 doesn't have a chance against a P-38J, because the P-38J can dictate the fight at will.

ack-ack

[Karnak]

A P-38J dominates the Me 410 so much so that the Me 410's only hope is to catch the P-38J pilot completely unaware.  Even with pilots of equal skill, the Me 410 doesn't have a chance against a P-38J, because the P-38J can dicate the fight at will.

ack-ack

The P-38L is just as dominating over the Me410 and the Mosquito VI not all that far behind both of those.

[mbailey]

Depends greatly on the situation (obviously). In a 1-on-1 co-alt, co-E, equal skill situation the 410 would be at a significant disadvantage against any of those fighters except the 38G, to the point of the outcome almost being a forgone conclusion.

Howdy GScholz <S> sir.  Id like to try this out if you want to give it a whirl.....Ill take the 38G and you the 410.  

Id like to see the 410 in the hands of someone that fights it......