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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #45 on: December 12, 2012, 10:39:50 PM »
If you've payed any attention to the Southeast Asian news over the past months, you would see that China is trying to rename the area east of Vietnam and West of the Phillipines the "South China Sea". I don't know where they got the idea that it belonged to them when the two closest countries are Vietnam, Malaysia and the Phillipines..

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Trying to take over a body of water doesn't sound like they're "leaving everyone alone".
You probably also haven't heard of Chinese pirates robbing Vietnamese fishing boats in their own coastline.
Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines have all had disputes with China within the past 2 years.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/asia-pacific/china/110614/south-china-sea-china-vs-vietnam

Remind you of anything?

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Ummm....they've claimed those waters and lands since before WWII.  Nothing new here and to assume or render parallels to Pre-WWII Europe would be preposterous.  The Chinese pride themselves on their tactical surprise.  I'm certain their war colleges and flag officer programs wince at the thought of tactically or strategically repeating history....and for the Chinese military strategist....that would be bad.

I never said they weren't poopy heads....I simply asked for an example, with indifference to ACK, where they have started a world war.  They haven't.  And they won't.  In as much as no country could beat them in a land war, they'll never be able to push anyone around outside of their own continent....they never have.
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #46 on: December 12, 2012, 10:48:29 PM »
wasnt it always called the south china sea?

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It was, just not printed on every map. Some accepted South China Sea, some preferred it to be Southeast Asia Sea. Now they want ALL maps to be changed to South China Sea.

Ummm....they've claimed those waters and lands since before WWII.  Nothing new here and to assume or render parallels to Pre-WWII Europe would be preposterous.  The Chinese pride themselves on their tactical surprise.  I'm certain their war colleges and flag officer programs wince at the thought of tactically or strategically repeating history....and for the Chinese military strategist....that would be bad.

I never said they weren't poopy heads....I simply asked for an example, with indifference to ACK, where they have started a world war.  They haven't.  And they won't.  In as much as no country could beat them in a land war, they'll never be able to push anyone around outside of their own continent....they never have.

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #47 on: December 12, 2012, 10:51:39 PM »
A predictable retort from someone who answered the question outside of the spirit in which it was asked so needs the claim of a rule change for his weak response...how destitute.   Moving the goal posts wouldn't have mattered because your kick got blocked.

this is your original post.
No, I'm not.  Please tell us the last war the Chinese started.  Korea doesn't count because the North and the South had been at each others throats since WWII

I provided two example of wars started by the Chinese in 1962 and 1979.  In one of your next posts, you moved the goal post by claiming you said "world wars".

I simply asked for an example, with indifference to ACK, where they have started a world war.  They haven't.  And they won't.  In as much as no country could beat them in a land war, they'll never be able to push anyone around outside of their own continent....they never have.

Better luck next time champ.

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #48 on: December 13, 2012, 03:00:57 AM »
And Japan and China are still bickering about the islands that they both seem to claim.  Wonder what play these islands have in the desire for China to have a carrier.

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #49 on: December 13, 2012, 08:15:26 AM »
this is your original post.
I provided two example of wars started by the Chinese in 1962 and 1979.  In one of your next posts, you moved the goal post by claiming you said "world wars".

Better luck next time champ.

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I love this guy.  He believes wars are wars because of how they're named.  So using your logic, the US started the Panamanian War of 1989 or the War of Grenada right?   There was a tiny part of me that wanted to believe you were smarter than that.  Do you actually try those little verbal technicality dodges and manipulations with other adults?  You should focus on talking only to the people that it works on....you'll just get chuckled at quite often if you don't.   What a sandlot goof...
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #50 on: December 13, 2012, 10:32:33 AM »
A bloke down the pub said the US started the second war :old:

He said its a cover up :old:

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #51 on: December 13, 2012, 12:01:49 PM »
A bloke down the pub said the US started the second war :old:

He said its a cover up :old:



ACK is in England right now?
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #52 on: December 13, 2012, 12:05:10 PM »
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #53 on: December 13, 2012, 12:23:24 PM »
I love this guy.  He believes wars are wars because of how they're named.  So using your logic, the US started the Panamanian War of 1989 or the War of Grenada right?   There was a tiny part of me that wanted to believe you were smarter than that.  Do you actually try those little verbal technicality dodges and manipulations with other adults?  You should focus on talking only to the people that it works on....you'll just get chuckled at quite often if you don't.   What a sandlot goof...

Definition of War:
Noun
A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

Are you under the misguided impression that a war can only be a war if it's global and declared?


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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #54 on: December 13, 2012, 01:07:53 PM »
Definition of War:
Noun
A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

Are you under the misguided impression that a war can only be a war if it's global and declared?


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Again the spirit of the original question escapes you.  But you already know that as evidenced by the ease at which continue to draw you off sides.

EDIT:  as I said, it depends on how you define it:  from Merriam

Synonyms: battle bloodshed cold war combat conflict contention contest enmity fighting hostilities hostility police action strife strike struggle warfare
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"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #55 on: December 13, 2012, 01:59:10 PM »
Purse fight? Let it be known: The Prada and the Gucci purses are perked.
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #56 on: December 13, 2012, 02:26:27 PM »
Naaa, he's just being ACK...he knows the difference.  He just gets off to being an crotchyanker
"Such is the nature of war.  By protecting others, you save yourself."

"Those who are skilled in combat do not become angered.  Those who are skilled at winning do not become afraid.  Thus, the wise win before the fight, while the ignorant fight to win." - Morihei Ueshiba

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #57 on: December 13, 2012, 06:39:25 PM »
I still dont understand why the United states and her allies do not spend a few trillion and make a moon base, eliminate the navy fleet,and move it out into space.

It has been said, he who commands space commands the earths between them, this one included.
And we had better get our shiyat together before the Russians or Chinese figure it out.


We need marines, space marines..and a space navy, we need to be able to crash down in drop pods on any part of the planet, we need the ability to fire rai lguns and lasers and all sorts of cool weapons down onto the planet at any whim.


and we need a really really big sling shot in the grand canyon to get us there.  :rock


COMMON FUTURE!!   :bhead

We also need flying cars, if everyone had a flying car..we wouldn't have time for wars or global dominance, everyone would be having fun flying...in a CAR!!
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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #58 on: December 13, 2012, 06:52:31 PM »
I still dont understand why the United states and her allies do not spend a few trillion and make a moon base, eliminate the navy fleet,and move it out into space.

It has been said, he who commands space commands the earths between them, this one included.
And we had better get our shiyat together before the Russians or Chinese figure it out.


We need marines, space marines..and a space navy, we need to be able to crash down in drop pods on any part of the planet, we need the ability to fire rai lguns and lasers and all sorts of cool weapons down onto the planet at any whim.


and we need a really really big sling shot in the grand canyon to get us there.  :rock


COMMON FUTURE!!   :bhead

We also need flying cars, if everyone had a flying car..we wouldn't have time for wars or global dominance, everyone would be having fun flying...in a CAR!!

And use money as toilet paper. I hear its good for your skin.

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Re: Chinese lands jets on first Carrier.
« Reply #59 on: December 13, 2012, 06:56:51 PM »
Ask the rich, they approve of that use. :rock
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