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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2012, 12:53:56 PM »
Morgan Freeman never made those statements.   :rofl

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2012, 01:20:40 PM »
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2012, 01:35:44 PM »
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2012, 01:38:14 PM »
Stick 2 police to guard each school. Money gets guards, factories have guards, why not for 1000 children?  I recall always seeing a couple police walking around my schools, if something broke out seemed there was always a cop within 80 yards.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2012, 01:56:31 PM »
police are too busy filling their parking ticket quotas to raise funds for the town or state

that's way more important than protecting children
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #65 on: December 17, 2012, 02:33:30 PM »
even as a hoax its all a bit embarassing for Morgan really, considering how much money he has made from acting in movies involving serial/spree killers and general gun-worship. his agent/PR must have had a busy couple of days.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #66 on: December 17, 2012, 02:35:28 PM »
police are too busy filling their parking ticket quotas to raise funds for the town or state

that's way more important than protecting children

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #67 on: December 17, 2012, 02:42:12 PM »
I'm guessing you would rather have been out on the beat doing real police work than spending every shift wandering around an elementary school as a security guard too.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #68 on: December 17, 2012, 02:48:55 PM »
I'm guessing you would rather have been out on the beat doing real police work than spending every shift wandering around an elementary school as a security guard too.
Im guessing whether or not it was  Winter time had much sway in this decision.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #69 on: December 17, 2012, 03:14:33 PM »
I think the real question is what's unique about the United States. Events like these have become, sadly, almost commonplace here. There is obviously, like or not, something deeply wrong with the American psyche that isn't present in practically any other western, civilized society in the world. Is it that our media is all that different? Is it because we've departed more from 'family values' than European cultures have? Is it just because it's easier to get guns? Is it because we glorify violence and going out with a bang more than anyone else?
Or it's something else?

These are the correct questions to ask.  The assumptions necessary to develop a problem-hypothesis will be based on the answers to these questions.  Well done
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #70 on: December 17, 2012, 03:17:43 PM »
Motherland,

On Friday, in China, a deranged man entered an elementary school and stabbed 22 children with a knife.  Fortunately, last I had heard none had died.  I have no doubt that had he been able to obtain a gun he would have used a gun instead of a knife. I am not suggesting guns need to be banned in the US.  Such a thing is literally impossible.  I was merely referencing another deranged act on the same day of similar type in a very different culture.  China has, in the last few years, had a rash of adult men stabbing school kids in schools.

Deranged people do deranged things and sometimes those deranged things are violent.  The question becomes, "What can we do to reduce the harm that they do?"

And providing some evidence that where there is a will, there's a way.  If they don't have guns, they use knives....if not knives, clubs, if not clubs, rocks and now we've reached prehistoric man.  What is causing the US and, as China incident suggests, move backwards in time?
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #71 on: December 17, 2012, 03:24:44 PM »
could you kill 26 people in 3-4mins with a rock? :headscratch:
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #72 on: December 17, 2012, 03:31:21 PM »
I grew up in the fifties and sixties.  No one would think of doing something of this magnitude.  It wouldn't be thought of as an option.
The first mass killing that I remember was by a deranged ex-marine in a tower in Texas.  That was in the early 60s.
If there were a disagreement at our school it would be taken up across the street in a mano a mano fist fight.  No jerks with guns
or knives.  Afterwards....winner and loser forgot about it.  It was settled.  No one bringing knives or guns into school.  Again
not an option, unheard of.

Place the blame squarely where it lies.  On todays society.

All great points....so the question remains....why are some demographics of society rapidly changing their views on what defines right and what defines wrong and why is real, real, wrong the path these people take?  I hate saying it because I'm not perfect  but....

PARENTING = the beginning, middle and end of teaching children accountability
PARENTING = what love looks like to a child
PARENTING=  the example of work ethic, social behavior, marital example, parenting example
PARENTING= attention.  Does our society as a whole pay enough, and, the right kind of attention to our own children...or is that iPhone more important?

99% of the time, loving them isn't enough.  We have to show them we do by paying attention to them when they speak, when they act out, when theyve done well or poorly, etc.  I'm not perfect....I'm just suggesting it all starts at home and when I was a kid, well, you all know that story.  Corporal punishment was allowed, parents agreed with it and you got it again when you got home. 

Maybe it's the law...maybe kids suing their parents and vile crap like that gives kids too much latitude...if you don't like it, hire an attorney and that candy donut will find a way to get you out of it.

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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #73 on: December 17, 2012, 03:33:57 PM »
could you kill 26 people in 3-4mins with a rock? :headscratch:

No.  So, now hiding behind a bush and clubbing people to death one at a time is better than all at once?  I figured some one would pick the rock and run with it.  You missed the point clearly.
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Re: Morgan Freeman's insight into the recent tragedy
« Reply #74 on: December 17, 2012, 04:13:07 PM »
could you kill 26 people in 3-4mins with a rock? :headscratch:
NOPE  but why do you assume they go rock when they could go bomb?
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