Gun sales today...pretty amazing...

[Slash27]

For my home I take my shotgun over anything else . Most of your shoots are going to be close range anyway so a shotgun is the way to go . With a rifle after you shoot a few rounds through it , it's going  to get hot and start shooting off anyway .

The closer the range the more accurate you have to be with a shotgun, same as a pistol or rifle.

[Halo46]

I spoke what I was reading about...that is all...I certainly don't agree with what they are saying.....my didn't clue you in?

maybe I just misunderstand what you are saying.

I took it the way you meant, I was being facetious, perhaps I should have used an emoticon instead of ...

There is much more to it than any one influence, I agree with others opinions about access and media attention (just look at all the attention whures we have in here and in game) have more influence than video games and movies. By that logic we should all (or a larger percentage anyway) be perpetrating violent criminal activity.

[Widewing]

Despite what you might think, putting a straight bore all the way through a barrel while keeping the barrel thickness on every side the same from start to finish is actually pretty hard, and in fact a lot of barrels will be a few thousandths off in some places. Now this isn't a problem with your typical hunting rifle or such but for something you'll be shooting a lot it will effect accuracy slightly in that when the barrel heats up, it will start to bend towards wherever there is less thickness.

Example about 3" from the muzzle my barrel is 7 thousandths thinner on one side than the other, when the barrel heats up it will bend towards the thin side of the barrel.


A great demo of this is chucking up a barrel in a lathe and heating it up with a torch for a second or two and watch as it bends on the lathe towards the thin side. Even better throw up a dial beside it (not too close to the torch!) and watch the dial go mad when the barrel is heated.

We've checked a new Henry barrel for runout relative to the bore at room temperature. Checked at 6 locations between chamber and muzzle. Worst case was .0019" runout. This surprised me. It was a sample of one, but it does indicate that Henry has outstanding tooling.

[VonMessa]

We've checked a new Henry barrel for runout relative to the bore at room temperature. Checked at 6 locations between chamber and muzzle. Worst case was .0019" runout. This surprised me. It was a sample of one, but it does indicate that Henry has outstanding tooling.

Wow 

That IS some fairly outstanding tooling.  Out of curiosity, what material is the barrel made from and is there any kind of heat treatment, normalizing or stress relieving done to the material before boring or rifling?

[FiLtH]

   Frankly its nobody's business what or how much I want to buy. Without getting into the dreaded gun control issue, I recently was told by someone that when the 2nd was written, we all had muskets, so its outdated. I replied yes we did, but so did our potential enemies. What do they have today, and what should we have?

[VonMessa]

  Frankly its nobody's business what or how much I want to buy. Without getting into the dreaded gun control issue, I recently was told by someone that when the 2nd was written, we all had muskets, so its outdated. I replied yes we did, but so did our potential enemies. What do they have today, and what should we have?

Stones.  Sharp pointy ones.

[Tank-Ace]

Stones.  Sharp pointy ones.

Can the be propelled at high velocities  ?

[crazyivan]

well some are blaming video games for this latest shooting

all kinds of people are trying to get violent games made illegal........ same with violent movies....

The media has to point a finger and blame someone. As if there was any rational thought, or reason to the latest tragedy.

I got me a shotgun, rifle, and 4WD, and country boy can survive! LOL ole Hank Williams jr.

[saggs]

Without violating rule #14.  I feel that all I can do is try to add some perspective.

Children killed by a crazed gunman illicit a very emotional type response, which leads to kneejerk reactions from all sides.  I was shocked as everyone is, but once I stepped back and calmed my emotions, rational thought can then resume.



Here is just one rational thought (most others would violate posting rules)

Thousands of children (and tens of thousands of adults) are killed every year by drunk drivers.  The odds are much, much higher you're child will be killed by a drunk driver then in a school shooting.  Yet where is the national outcry to "do something"to save our children from drunk drivers, and regulate alcohol more strictly?

Drunk drivers is just one example.  There are many events/people/diseases/accidents that have much greater odds of killing your child then a crazed gunman at school.  

It's no solace to the victims of the latest tragedy I know, but is the loss felt by a parent who lost a child to an auto accident, or a terminal cancer, or anything else, any less bitter?

[Dadsguns]

Absolutely saggs, your spot on.  Look at this same example of Intentional self-harm (suicide): 36,909 from 2009..  you don't hear much about the thousands that take their life each year.... THOUSANDS!!

Some are using this tragedy of a mad man as a vessel for their own agenda rather than address the mental illness issues that are prevalent in our society and coming up with a solid solution to address that problem.

[Motherland]

Without violating rule #14.  I feel that all I can do is try to add some perspective.

Children killed by a crazed gunman illicit a very emotional type response, which leads to kneejerk reactions from all sides.  I was shocked as everyone is, but once I stepped back and calmed my emotions, rational thought can then resume.



Here is just one rational thought (most others would violate posting rules)

Thousands of children (and tens of thousands of adults) are killed every year by drunk drivers.  The odds are much, much higher you're child will be killed by a drunk driver then in a school shooting.  Yet where is the national outcry to "do something"to save our children from drunk drivers, and regulate alcohol more strictly?

Drunk drivers is just one example.  There are many events/people/diseases/accidents that have much greater odds of killing your child then a crazed gunman at school.  

It's no solace to the victims of the latest tragedy I know, but is the loss felt by a parent who lost a child to an auto accident, or a terminal cancer, or anything else, any less bitter?

Murder may as well be legal since everyone dies anyway

[RTHolmes]

Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!

[Ardy123]

Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!

 

[rabbidrabbit]

Can't wait for the president of the National Beer Association to hold a press conference explaining how since some already drive drunk, the roads would be safer if everybody would drive drunk!

So you are saying that since felons currently misuse guns then everyone else should commit crimes with them too?  Sorry, I don't get your logic.

[Seanaldinho]

So you are saying that since felons currently misuse guns then everyone else should commit crimes with them too?  Sorry, I don't get your logic.

Lighten up old bean!