787s...

[Karnak]

What is going on with the 787?



Ripsnort?

[Beefcake]

After all these problems with the 787 I've decided that "If it's Boeing, I might not be going."

[Karnak]

After all these problems with the 787 I've decided that "If it's Boeing, I might not be going."

The 777 is great.  The problems are specific to the 787.

[flight17]

The 777 is great.  The problems are specific to the 787.

no the problem is with the media trying to make nothing into something. now granted, this incident is not a nothing, but in the last week, there has been something reported every day that have been nothings.

the 787 is just going through a little bit of teething ATM. it just so happens that its all happening this month...

[palef]

The 777 is great.  The problems are specific to the 787.

Horrible aircraft. Never experienced one with all of the internal systems working or the capacity to deliver food or liquid refreshment. 11 hour flight with no toilets, not food, no drink and no in-flight entertainment system as well as minimal internal lighting was the worst.

[zack1234]

Its all the UK's fault

And so is global warning

[FTJR]

I remember asking the boss of the company I worked for at the time, why we were waiting so long to get the 777, his reply was to the effect that it takes a year or two to work out the bugs.

No matter how well designed the aeorplane, real life springs surprises that noone on the design team could have imagined.  As long as it doesn't kill someone.

[Karnak]

no the problem is with the media trying to make nothing into something. now granted, this incident is not a nothing, but in the last week, there has been something reported every day that have been nothings.

the 787 is just going through a little bit of teething ATM. it just so happens that its all happening this month...

This wasn't the only incident.  There have been three or four incidents this week.  Two Japanese airlines have grounded them now.  You don't do that to your best money making aircraft without a real reason.

The 777 never had these kinds of problems.

[rpm]

Sounds like a design flaw. Somebody got complacent and didn't do their homework.

[USAFCAPcTSgt]

Just slap some duct tape on the problem areas and everything will be ok. 

[FTJR]

This wasn't the only incident.  There have been three or four incidents this week.  Two Japanese airlines have grounded them now.  You don't do that to your best money making aircraft without a real reason.

The 777 never had these kinds of problems.

Im aware of all the other problems they've had with the 787, my company has 20 on order so we're fairly well informed. Also I believe that todays wired world is  why everything is instantly flashed around the world.

Remember the 777 was introduced sometime in the mid nineties I dont think we had that connectivity to advertise every incident. Also the 777 was pretty much done, at least to a degree, the old fashioned way, so why they actually did have their problems they were not as dramatic or as well advertised as things are with the 787.

Thats not to say that Boeing can just sit there, its pretty obvious there are some serious flaws with the manufacture that need to be sorted asap.

[zack1234]

They should move production of said plane to China

It will be cheaper as well

[Bodhi]

I worked for Delta when we launched the 777.  All the aircraft we accepted all did substantial time flying short haul stuff with high cycles per day to ensure that the "kinks" were worked out.  There were several problems that occurred during that time frame, but as opposed today, there was not a camera phone or digital camera at every corner, and most of it went unreported.

[GScholz]

Did you ground the entire fleet of 777s at any time?

[NatCigg]

FIRE! a FIRE is not a big problem? why is the plane catching fire? why do two separate planes catch fire in the same spot in two weeks? I think i'd ground the plane too.