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Offline Kenne

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What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« on: January 25, 2013, 11:40:27 AM »
hitting the archives i noted the latest conversation on this subject was over a decade ago.
i realize that 'dot dar' is triggered by the alt of AC and the presence of a RADAR tower.
but what is the 'trigger' for darbar?
observer corp?
FLPs?
FOPs?
can it be adjusted?
is it susceptible by changes in terrain?
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 11:48:43 AM »
Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.


And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 11:48:46 AM »
DarBar, or "Sector Counters" as they're called in the arena settings, are triggered by altitude above ground just like the dots. There is a separate set of variables for the two kinds of radar. You can see the current settings for any arena by going into the arena settings clipboard and viewing the Ranges tab.
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 11:48:58 AM »
The trigger is altitude.

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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 11:54:11 AM »
If I remember the Dar bar is in reference to the aircraft that are over 250ft above ground level(can't remember which one) once you go above that a Dar bar will show up on the map, the size of the Dar bar depends on the amount of planes in that sector over the 250ft altitude
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 11:55:23 AM »
If I remember the Dar bar is in reference to the aircraft that are over 65 or 100 ft above ground level


65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 11:57:14 AM »

65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.

Man your quick lol I was editing for correctness
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 11:58:06 AM »
sorry  :uhoh
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 12:05:56 PM »
Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.


And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...

It does seem like the updating thing is fixed now.
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 12:12:41 PM »
Triggered by altitude (250ft in the MA)
Can be adjusted in arena settings ('Arena Settings' - 'Ranges' - 'SectorCounterAlt')
Is susceptible to changes in terrain.


And it's sometimes quite slow on updating...

I haven't noted any false/ghost/delayed-updating dar bars for the last couple months... just saying, on my end.


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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 12:19:00 PM »
The update delay for the radar information is an arena setting (viewable from the arena settings like everything else). I'm guessing it is also a product of your connection and how fast your client can process the data coming from the host - the busier the arena, the more data is sent and the more data your computer needs to recieve and process before your screen is updated.
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 01:14:33 PM »
The update delay for the radar information is an arena setting (viewable from the arena settings like everything else). I'm guessing it is also a product of your connection and how fast your client can process the data coming from the host - the busier the arena, the more data is sent and the more data your computer needs to recieve and process before your screen is updated.

I don't think that's quite exactly right.  The behavior I've seen and a vague recollection of something Hitech might've said seems to indicate the program updates the location for x number of aircraft at a time.  So for example using random numbers to illustrate, if it updates 10 aircraft every 10 seconds, and you're in an arena with 10 aircraft in it, every 10 seconds you will see the update for a specific aircraft.

If you've got the same scenario and there are 100 aircraft in the arena, it will be 100 seconds in between updates for each aircraft, because it will have to cycle through the other 9 groups of 10 before it gets back to him.

It should have virtually nothing to do with your connection speed and everything to do with how many aircraft are in the arena.

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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 01:19:12 PM »

65ft is dot dar.
Darbar is 250ft.

is this ASL or AGL?
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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 01:19:51 PM »
If you think you are having a 1v1 in the Main Arena, your SA has failed you.

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Re: What mechinism triggers DarBar? (was NOE darbar)
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 01:28:17 PM »
AGL.

Wiley.

so if i fly under 100'
no matter where i go, i shoodnt appear on dar or the bar..yes?
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