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Offline flight17

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A C47 with real kills.
« on: February 04, 2013, 11:02:38 PM »
Was doing some research on a C47 the museum I belong to will be getting and found a very short insert from a book about another plane that was in the same troop carrier squad.

The c47 in question was 43-16389, named Stuka Chaser. After reading this small clip I serched online for a better brief and found this:

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Long story short, on May 9th, 1945 the crew was flying a resupply mission from their hospital base @ A-28, S.E. of Paris to R-26 hospital near Hannover. Someone decided it would be 'fun' to fly into Czechoslovakia to add to their collective 'Short Snorter' bills. En route they encountered a 12 seat German twin engined transport, they flew up alongside and poked 1911 COLTS and a THOMPSON Machine Gun out the window ports and cargo door and forced the German to fly back to their hospital field, where there were no guns, to score some 'war booty'. The ground echelons stripped the airplane of everything 'neat' before 389 could land and taxi in. The crew decided to see if they could do it again and took off, they soon encountered a flight of 5 STUKAS and performed the same 'Chicago style' hijacking back to base. The crew quickly painted 'STUKA CHASER' and 6 SWASTIKAS on the left side nose in white along with the other parachutes,gliders, and cargo bundle mission markers.

Thought it was interesting. Though not technically kills, it might as well be. The first clip I read said this was the only C47 that ever had kills painted on the fuselage in th ETO.
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 11:10:47 PM »
 :lol We have to have that skin in the game now. Do you have any pics of this bird by chance?
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 11:25:39 PM »
:lol We have to have that skin in the game now. Do you have any pics of this bird by chance?

Just what I was about to say.  Dang skippy this one needs to be included. :rock
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 11:39:51 PM »








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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2013, 12:07:58 AM »
Awesome Lyric.  :aok
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2013, 12:08:49 AM »
it is a good thing it was towards the end of the war when the germans were surrendering by the hundreds of thousands.  had it been the year before the c47 would have been another allied airplane lost.


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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2013, 12:20:01 AM »
We have the C47A in the game. I wonder if the powers to be would even allow this skin seeing as how the Stuka Chaser is a C47B.  :headscratch:
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2013, 12:33:10 AM »
We have the C47A in the game. I wonder if the powers to be would even allow this skin seeing as how the Stuka Chaser is a C47B.  :headscratch:

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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2013, 12:35:24 AM »
The stukas had several machineguns and would have promptly shot the C47 down on sight. It was not a kill it was accepting surrender.
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2013, 12:45:42 AM »
Surrender or not the traditional definition accounted for forcing an aircraft down, so it counts.
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2013, 01:05:55 AM »
Someone post this in the Skins forum as a request please!! :pray
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2013, 01:24:55 AM »
Surrender or not the traditional definition accounted for forcing an aircraft down, so it counts.

It was not forcing if the other side voluntarily followed their orders. The Stuka had ample firepower and manouverability to shoot down a C47 even singlehanded.
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 09:49:47 AM »
This potentially could be the dumbest argument yet.

Going to make a time machine and go back and make the crew scrub those kill markings off?
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 09:58:07 AM »
This potentially could be the dumbest argument yet.

Going to make a time machine and go back and make the crew scrub those kill markings off?

It's a historical fact that uncormed kills were rewarded to buff crews as morale boosters. I see nothing dissimilar with this.
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Re: A C47 with real kills.
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2013, 10:06:17 AM »
The reason the German air crews surrendered is irrelevant. The fact is they surrendered to this C-47 and that is considered a victory. How many guns and of what caliber the Stukas had is of no matter because they decided not to use them.
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