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Offline monroekw

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Hotas Warthog Control system
« on: February 10, 2013, 10:22:28 AM »
I did a search on this but could not find any info.  Has anyone posted their programming for the buttons on the throttle/stick?  If not, is anyone willing to share?

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 02:29:19 PM »
Learning someone else's setup is harder than making your own. Just assign the few commands that you use often to convenient buttons and add more commands later as you need them. Then you'll have a setup that works for you and you'll find it easier to remember which button does what.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 11:11:26 PM »
I should have mentioned that you don't need to use the TARGET software. It's easy to assign buttons in Aces High, you can even assign them in flight in clipboard options/controls/map controllers.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2013, 03:30:50 PM »
Tried programming mine when i first got it. What a useless headache.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2013, 07:23:09 PM »
If you don't use the target programming you're cutting the sticks potential in half. The custom capabilities it provides is what makes it awesome.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2013, 10:44:40 AM »
If you don't use the target programming you're cutting the sticks potential in half. The custom capabilities it provides is what makes it awesome.

Outside of the functions like shooting the guns and making the plane move are there some examples of what you can do with yours that i'm missing out on? I use the in game functions and think it does real good. What am i missing out on? When I tried the program software it annoyed me to no end.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2013, 07:17:27 PM »
Outside of the functions like shooting the guns and making the plane move are there some examples of what you can do with yours that i'm missing out on? I use the in game functions and think it does real good. What am i missing out on? When I tried the program software it annoyed me to no end.
Not sure if there is a way to do these in aces... so no warranty expressed or implied.

1. Dual Stage trigger... Half pull is primary guns, full pull is both primary and secondary.
2. Utilizing the afterburner detent on the throttle for WEP.
3. Adding commands to an axis... Like the slider which I use for RPM... This way I can auto kill engine when rpm to minimum... And auto on when RPM up... Excellent for damage control situations... Example, Oil and radiator hits: for feathering the prop and not bleeding oil/overheating your engine.
4. Macro commands... All salvo, delay, speed, downtime and sequencing commands with single button press.
5. Utilization of shift button commands so each button can have an alternate function when the shift button is pressed.
6. The boat switch for command modes allow programming different functions for each button while in that mode.
7. Short burst firing... Example when I have my shift button in and pull the trigger, it will only fire 10 rounds... Great for pinging a running bandit but not going overboard and wasting ammo.


That's just a few I can think of off the top of my head... I'm sure there are more, the possibilities are endless.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2013, 08:26:05 PM »
You don't need target for the dual stage trigger. AH sees both stages of the trigger as separate buttons.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2013, 09:11:22 PM »
You don't need target for the dual stage trigger. AH sees both stages of the trigger as separate buttons.

Not sure if there is a way to do these in aces... so no warranty expressed or implied. 

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2013, 11:13:49 PM »
Back to the original question.  Does anyone have their T.A.R.G.E.T programming posted somewhere?  I am trying to use T.A.R.G.E.T. To program my HOTAS Cougar and I am having some success but...  Not everything works.  I can get buttons to work but the X, Y and Z Axis don't work.  If I can make it work I see the tremendous potential in using T.A.R.G.E.T to run the stick and throttle.  I just need some help.  Maybe someone knows a website that has programming tips.  I already know about Warthog World.

Thank you in advance,

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2013, 11:51:11 PM »
Back to the original question.  Does anyone have their T.A.R.G.E.T programming posted somewhere?  I am trying to use T.A.R.G.E.T. To program my HOTAS Cougar and I am having some success but...  Not everything works.  I can get buttons to work but the X, Y and Z Axis don't work.  If I can make it work I see the tremendous potential in using T.A.R.G.E.T to run the stick and throttle.  I just need some help.  Maybe someone knows a website that has programming tips.  I already know about Warthog World.

Thank you in advance,

Craig

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I have my old HOTAS Cougar config files from when I programmed it all within Foxy if you'd like those... just PM me and I'll send em off if you're interested.   I actually miss the programming in Foxy ... it was faster, and persistent.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2013, 09:54:57 AM »
Not sure if there is a way to do these in aces... so no warranty expressed or implied.

1. Dual Stage trigger... Half pull is primary guns, full pull is both primary and secondary.
2. Utilizing the afterburner detent on the throttle for WEP.
3. Adding commands to an axis... Like the slider which I use for RPM... This way I can auto kill engine when rpm to minimum... And auto on when RPM up... Excellent for damage control situations... Example, Oil and radiator hits: for feathering the prop and not bleeding oil/overheating your engine.
4. Macro commands... All salvo, delay, speed, downtime and sequencing commands with single button press.
5. Utilization of shift button commands so each button can have an alternate function when the shift button is pressed.
6. The boat switch for command modes allow programming different functions for each button while in that mode.
7. Short burst firing... Example when I have my shift button in and pull the trigger, it will only fire 10 rounds... Great for pinging a running bandit but not going overboard and wasting ammo.
That's just a few I can think of off the top of my head... I'm sure there are more, the possibilities are endless.
Hadnt thought of some of those at all! Thanks for some ideas. I use my keyboard for macros and hadn't thought of the stick to do that.   :salute

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2013, 11:27:53 AM »
Back to the original question.  Does anyone have their T.A.R.G.E.T programming posted somewhere?  I am trying to use T.A.R.G.E.T. To program my HOTAS Cougar and I am having some success but...  Not everything works.  I can get buttons to work but the X, Y and Z Axis don't work.  If I can make it work I see the tremendous potential in using T.A.R.G.E.T to run the stick and throttle.  I just need some help.  Maybe someone knows a website that has programming tips.  I already know about Warthog World.

Thank you in advance,

Craig

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You have to assign the axis in Aces High.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2013, 10:45:22 AM »
Pand,

Thank you for the offer, but I am trying to program the Cougar HOTAS with the T.A.R.G.E.T. software.  It just works easier for me than Foxy.  I will admit I didn't put much time into Foxy, who knows it might work better, BUT... I am giving T.A.R.G.E.T. a try.  I was able to program the stick in the advanced mode fairly quickly using T.A.R.G.E.T.  Still haven't tried anything to radical with it yet but I am just starting.

FLS,

Thank you for that information.  But I would like to get the axis programmed in T.A.R.G.E.T. if I can.  I believe I will have better control of dampening, dead zones, curves, etc... in T.A.R.G.E.T. than Aces High.  After some reading it seems that the Cougar HOTAS hides the directX axis inputs from Windows, unless you go into the Cougar Control Panel and check a box to make the Cougar Stick unhide the axis from windows.  Interesting... more things to try.
I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2013, 12:41:25 PM »
Thank you for that information.  But I would like to get the axis programmed in T.A.R.G.E.T. if I can.  I believe I will have better control of dampening, dead zones, curves, etc... in T.A.R.G.E.T. than Aces High.  After some reading it seems that the Cougar HOTAS hides the directX axis inputs from Windows, unless you go into the Cougar Control Panel and check a box to make the Cougar Stick unhide the axis from windows.  Interesting... more things to try.
If the programming for the cougar in TARGET is similar to the warthog, you can program custom commands (like WEP) at the top 10% of the throttle in TARGET; however, after all that is done you still have to tell Aces which axis to link the throttle to. 

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