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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2013, 01:36:35 PM »
Pand,

Interesting, I did not know that.  I will go into Aces High and tell the program what axis need to be linked to what directions.  Then I can start flying and try shaping the curves and trying some radical programming. (WEP top 10% of throttle).

Craig

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I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2013, 01:53:03 PM »
To be a little more specific...

Here is a screenshot of the throttle config in TARGET.  You want to match the WEP command "p" to just right after you pass the detent on your Cougar or Warthog (which would normally be the afterburner).   You will likely have to play with the percentage to get it just right to match your stick, but for my warthog you'll see it is at 75% of the entire throttle range.



After getting the above accurate, when you go into Aces, assign the axis to throttle1, and then calibrate just that axis from zero throttle until you hit the detent (Don't show aces that the area past the detent even exists... this way your aircraft throttle will be at 100% when in the detent, and via TARGET will engage WEP Past the detent.)

Hope this helps!


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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 08:58:29 PM »
Pand,

Yes your information has helped a great deal.  Very cool programming on the image.  I saved your image for later.  Hey is that one key you have mapped (H2U) to enter in a dot speed command with one press of a button?

Craig

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I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2013, 03:22:52 PM »
Pand and FLS,

Thank you for the help.  I mapped the axis in Aces High to the HOTAS Virtual joystick and vola! It works!  Thank you both for all your suggestions.  I have my stick now programmed for the low range [D] to be GVs the mid range, or default [M] to be fighters.  A little more time and I will have the Upper Range programmed for bombers.  Then I can try some more interesting programming on the stick.  For now I need to get the Antenna pot replaced as it show as either of or full on with no range in between.   Will have to call thrustmaster for a replacement.  Once again thank you both for your time and help.

Craig

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I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

Hazmatt

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 11:35:17 PM »
Pand and FLS,

Thank you for the help.  I mapped the axis in Aces High to the HOTAS Virtual joystick and vola! It works!  Thank you both for all your suggestions.  I have my stick now programmed for the low range [D] to be GVs the mid range, or default [M] to be fighters.  A little more time and I will have the Upper Range programmed for bombers.  Then I can try some more interesting programming on the stick.  For now I need to get the Antenna pot replaced as it show as either of or full on with no range in between.   Will have to call thrustmaster for a replacement.  Once again thank you both for your time and help.

Craig

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You are welcome! Any other questions don't hesitate to ask! :salute

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2013, 06:12:22 PM »
I have had a Warthog since the first delivery group and have tried using Target to do what I wanted in AH exactly 3 times. It sucked all across the board for me but then I really preferred using FOXY for the programming; mainly because I don't like writing code in order to use a controller to play a game.

In Blackshark or A-10C I use other peoples configs since they are easier to learn instead of writing out new codes.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »
Pand,

Question, I have tried to map the HOTAS Cougar Throttle Antenna and the Slider (T10 I believe) to an analog axis in Aces High.  In this case I tried to map it to the Tank gun-sight.  The problem is the Antenna shows up as completely off or completely on.  The T.A.R.G.E.T. software device analyzer shows it has variable.  Just like moving the throttle.  Why is it showing in Aces High as just an on off switch?  And How can I make it show as an analog axis like it is supposed to be.  Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Craig

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I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2013, 07:38:22 PM »
Pand,

Question, I have tried to map the HOTAS Cougar Throttle Antenna and the Slider (T10 I believe) to an analog axis in Aces High.  In this case I tried to map it to the Tank gun-sight.  The problem is the Antenna shows up as completely off or completely on.  The T.A.R.G.E.T. software device analyzer shows it has variable.  Just like moving the throttle.  Why is it showing in Aces High as just an on off switch?  And How can I make it show as an analog axis like it is supposed to be.  Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you,

Craig

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Once the configuration is downloaded,
Do the axes show up in windows under your game controller?

Then, do the raw values in aces high register as an analog axis?

If not you might not have the right type of axis identified for those functions in Target as you can select different types.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2013, 01:28:34 PM »
Pand,

Thank you for the advice it was exactly as you said it was.  I just needed to map the correct axis to my antenna pot and now I have it mapped to my GV gunsight and I can adjust the gunsight using the antenna pot!  Great!  Now if you don't mine some other questions...

1) My other axis (Throttle mostly) are off.  My throttle in game will go from full throttle to off with only half the physical movement of my Cougar HOTAS throttle.  I know it must be a calibration issue but where do I calibrate it?  Using T.A.R.G.E.T. it takes me to windows to calibrate.  In game has it's own calibration.  Where do I start?  Where do I calibrate?  Are there 2 files I can delete, one in windows, one in Aces High so I can start from scratch?  Where are they located and what are there names?  And when I recalibrate where do I start first?

2) Second I was wondering if there was a way to increase the size of any axis by double.  This may be complicated to explain but here goes.  Lets say I am in a bomber and trying to shoot down a plane on my six.  I find that zoomed in or not when I try to put the pipper on the fighter it jumps all over the place as any stick input moves the pipper to much.  If I could say press a button to double the axis range then the pipper would move half as far with the same stick movement.  Giving me finer control over where I put the pipper and a slower response speed so I don't over-control the stick when trying to shoot down the fighter.  The same for GV's when I use the tank sight I find the far away targets are hard to sight in because of the movement of the stick.  If I could increase the size of the axis by double then the stick motion would be cut in half giving me more precision.  Does this make sense?  And can it be done.  I have seen mice sold with what they call a "Sniper Button" that when you press it accomplishes this action.  Button pressed large mouse movements move the gunsight very little allowing more precision.

Well lots of questions I thank you in advance for any you can answer and any you can't I understand.  Thank you for trying.

Regards,

Craig
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I've noticed there's one nut that seems to fly a 39 and actually get kills in it. I'm not sure what's wrong with them...

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 03:48:51 PM »
Pand,

Thank you for the advice it was exactly as you said it was.  I just needed to map the correct axis to my antenna pot and now I have it mapped to my GV gunsight and I can adjust the gunsight using the antenna pot!  Great!  Now if you don't mine some other questions...

1) My other axis (Throttle mostly) are off.  My throttle in game will go from full throttle to off with only half the physical movement of my Cougar HOTAS throttle.  I know it must be a calibration issue but where do I calibrate it?  Using T.A.R.G.E.T. it takes me to windows to calibrate.  In game has it's own calibration.  Where do I start?  Where do I calibrate?  Are there 2 files I can delete, one in windows, one in Aces High so I can start from scratch?  Where are they located and what are there names?  And when I recalibrate where do I start first?

2) Second I was wondering if there was a way to increase the size of any axis by double.  This may be complicated to explain but here goes.  Lets say I am in a bomber and trying to shoot down a plane on my six.  I find that zoomed in or not when I try to put the pipper on the fighter it jumps all over the place as any stick input moves the pipper to much.  If I could say press a button to double the axis range then the pipper would move half as far with the same stick movement.  Giving me finer control over where I put the pipper and a slower response speed so I don't over-control the stick when trying to shoot down the fighter.  The same for GV's when I use the tank sight I find the far away targets are hard to sight in because of the movement of the stick.  If I could increase the size of the axis by double then the stick motion would be cut in half giving me more precision.  Does this make sense?  And can it be done.  I have seen mice sold with what they call a "Sniper Button" that when you press it accomplishes this action.  Button pressed large mouse movements move the gunsight very little allowing more precision.

Well lots of questions I thank you in advance for any you can answer and any you can't I understand.  Thank you for trying.

Regards,

Craig
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Glad it's working out!

1.  In Aces, Under Map Controllers -> Click on Advanced and Manually configure your Axis for each throttle individually.  Click on it and then click Calibrate Axis.  That should likely address your issue.

2.  In Aces, I would suggest you play with scaling.   Same thing under Map Controllers -> Advanced... you can adjust the scaling specifically for that axis... on the Y Axis for example, if you have the default scaling you have 'finer' movements near the center of the stick, but as you proceed toward the extremities the movement goes up exponentially.

I haven't done any thing like 'sniper' mode, but you may be able to do something similar in TARGET... not sure.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 03:50:33 PM by Pand »

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2013, 01:17:13 PM »
i'm thinking of buying this stick. I like all the features Pand listed.Is the code you need to use in programming simple?
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2013, 07:25:30 PM »
It's a GUI interface for programming which is very easy for those without a programming background.

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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2013, 07:41:56 PM »
Thanks ~S~
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2013, 11:13:31 AM »
Hi guys.

How does your warthogs fare? Are you happy with them in AH?

I consider getting one for myself. But a little bit scared of all these military style switches. How convenient are they compared to usual buttons?
And a price around $500 for unit without required pedals is a little bit high.
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Re: Hotas Warthog Control system
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2013, 12:58:17 PM »
Couldn't be happier.  Most of their use is specifically for Aces High.

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