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Offline Devil 505

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2013, 12:22:42 PM »
I think the increase in 109's is attributed to the inclusion of the new skins. Give the creator a pat on the back, because they're great.  :noid
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2013, 12:34:35 PM »
Some more stuff...


(190s includes Ta 152H, Spits includes Seafire)



On a related note...
Would it be of any interest if I would create a kind of  'Lusche's Stats' megathread? In the past 5 years I have made countless statistics and charts, but most of them are just buried in long forgotten threads all over the BBS, even though their content might still be of interest. That thread would be a place where I could always post such snippets in, and it probably wouldn't entirely disappear from the forum surface.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2013, 12:38:36 PM »
Those canons sure take their toll.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2013, 12:53:32 PM »
Some do in Malta may have brought about mopre 109F  :noid
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2013, 12:55:01 PM »

On a related note...
Would it be of any interest if I would create a kind of  'Lusche's Stats' megathread?

Yes please.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2013, 01:31:14 PM »
Two words for ya........MOAR TATERS!   Thanks and credits to RedBull for the invention of that phrase.....
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2013, 01:51:10 PM »
I sure cannot argue with any of the replies.  Could well be a coincidence on the time I selected to fly and the home base choice of the last few days that a lot of 109s and 190s were trying to or had establish fighter caps.  

I hope this was not seen as a whine Fugative but more of an observation that is somewhat bore out by Lusche numbers albeit my case, using his numbers, is still weak.

 :joystick: I think my biggest problem is I am addicted to furballs and I like the planes not best suited for that type of fight so any diving planes from above makes furballing that much harder. :bhead

Thanks for the replies.  Lusche special thanks for the numbers.




You are not that far off. Planes are already limited by ENY. As the ENY limit changes, sometimes you can't grab the plane you want. ENY is currently base on population of each country (and possibly, how many bases they hold?). What you are really proposing is basing it on how many of each model are already in flight. WMAKER, proposed the same thing a few moths ago. Your idea and his could be combined where the ENY could be based on (ARENA #s of that plane)/(HISTORIC DISTRIBUTIONS).   WMAKER was speaking about the ability of the plane to earn perks (IIRC), whereas you are talking about historic balance of plane numbers.  HTC recognizes there should be limits on some rides based on capability and historic use, hence the Perk system exists, but they also want to allow as much freedonm to play with what ever plane you choose.

You idea probably needs a little development based on how it would impact players and the game. I encourge you to get some a data and tell us more...

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2013, 02:19:45 PM »
A perk tag is only a soft limit, unlike the ENY limit. If you got the points you can fly them and you fly them for free as long as you land. Players that spend most of their time in planes with ENY higher than 5, very quickly rack up hundreds and even thousands of perk points. If you fly for the less populated countries you earn more perks and get a discount in the perk tags, making some perked rides dirty cheap.

The perk tag is mostly a psychological limit. With just a couple of hundred perks one can probably fly nothing but Chogs for many tours, even if his K/D is unimpressive.

btw, I too noticed an increase in the frequency of 190s and 109s that I meet. Not that it bothers me, they go down and/or kill me just like that P51s and Spits do. Also since I tend to fly mostly allied planes, blasting the Luftwaffe out of the sky seems more appropriate. Maybe it is just the player population that matures - new players gravitate towards the Spits and P51s, but as players get more proficient, many discover the crisp handling and firepower of the 190 and the excellent balance between speed, excess power and turn of the 109s and switch to those planes. I rarely notice two-weekers these days, so either I am getting blind to them or that there are just few of them and the rest of the player base are more experienced on average.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2013, 02:24:07 PM »
Let's not forget the social considerations.  :old:

Dweebs fly Spits.

Cool kids fly 109's.

Peer pressure is terrible.   :old:
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2013, 02:28:18 PM »
Let's not forget the social considerations.  :old:

Dweebs fly Spits.

Cool kids fly 109's.

Peer pressure is terrible.   :old:
Well, generally as I see it dweebs fly Spitfires and P-51Ds and whiners fly Bf109s and Fw190s.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2013, 03:00:28 PM »
K4? Almost as easy as a brew. Only noobs fly them.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2013, 04:22:21 PM »
K4? Almost as easy as a brew. Only noobs fly them.

But what if you're a nub?
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2013, 04:31:14 PM »
Das Muppets set the trend. Everyone wants to be us or beat us. Either way, I love the attention.
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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2013, 04:39:27 PM »



On a related note...
Would it be of any interest if I would create a kind of  'Lusche's Stats' megathread? In the past 5 years I have made countless statistics and charts, but most of them are just buried in long forgotten threads all over the BBS, even though their content might still be of interest. That thread would be a place where I could always post such snippets in, and it probably wouldn't entirely disappear from the forum surface.

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It would be interesting  Might help too when facts get left out of an argument.

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Re: Rash of 109s and 190s
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2013, 04:44:31 PM »
:lol

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