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Offline Slade

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Air Field Target Wish
« on: February 19, 2013, 11:00:20 AM »
HiTech,

I'd like to be able to take out rearm pads like we can take out any other field structure please.


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Offline waystin2

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 01:46:46 PM »
HiTech,

I'd like to be able to take out rearm pads like we can take out any other field structure please.


Thanks,

Slade  :salute

Kill re-arm pads?  That is the awesomest place to get kills!  Nothing sweeter than a fool re-arming at a heavily contested field.  NOM NOM.

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 01:56:22 PM »
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Kill re-arm pads?  That is the awesomest place to get kills!

Wow and I thought rearm pad score junkies were, well, you know.

Not that the poster of the above comment is score obsessed but I expect those committed to score not to like this wish one bit.  It is a legitimate target that we cannot take out at present.  I am asking AH to fix this.


waystin2, thanks for you post.  :salute
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 04:05:50 PM »
How much ord do you thing is reasonable to take out the rearm pads?
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2013, 04:11:49 PM »
I'd say 500lbs. Not a hardened target or anything.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2013, 01:04:52 PM »
I think it will make the game more realistic when we can take out the rearm pads.
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2013, 05:02:56 PM »

Even go so far that manned ack will spawn a player into a gun with "0" rounds, or a percentage less equal to the number of untouched rearm pads standing. If all rearm pads are down, all manned ack is at "0" rounds. Allow these to be all brought up by the first M3 or C47 to drop supplies on the airfeild. Now when you take an airfeild you bring along a second M3 or C47 with field supplies to bring up the rearm pads. Leave auto ack and shore batteries out of this cycle.

Lets look at what it would do for or to both sides.

Defenders and General Operations

1. - A single player could deny "kill string collecters" their rearm ability inside of their effective operation range by hitting 2-4 airfeilds.

2. - GV Ack units and tanks could be denyed their last line of ammo rearm during Ft. Apache style hoard attacks.

3. - A just captured feild with no ord could be hit by a suprise jabo or bomber box to strategicly remove the rearm pads, ord and VH to help GV counter attackers or slow a hoard momentum.

4. - Your feild could be hit by jabo and bombers specificly to take down ord, VH and the rearm pads interfering with your ability to stop GV or carry on an attack against another feild.

5. - Your manned ack could all be rendered useless if my opening suggestion is implimented.

Attackers

1. - Deny GV ack units and tanks their last ammo rearm during a mass assault shortening the time to be shot by defenders.

2. - New score target and strategic target combo. Ord, VH and rearm pads. GV assaults are less dangerous.

3. - A way to infuriate "kill string collectors".

4. - A new target for short range sneekers or long range tanker snipers to gain a few points blowing up something important.

5. - In some cases after a base is just taken that has no ord available. Several sneeky greifers could show up in FW to take out the rearm pads and kill the momentum of the rolling hoard. Or a buff box loitering at alt waiting to make a pass after the inevitable capture. We have all been in at least one mission where the mission leader yells: "Ok guys as soon as that last troop goes in, everyone get down and rearm. We gotta keep this momentum going to reset the map." Momentum is everything in keeping the short attention spans of gamers where you want them focused.

6. - If my opening suggestion is implemented another strategic resource for the attackers to remember to bring along. The key to having manned ack available while your just captured airfeild is vulnerable.
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2013, 06:00:38 PM »
It will add some new dimensions to the game when we can take out the rearm pad.  :rock

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2013, 06:17:56 PM »
No.   Thank you.
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Offline bustr

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2013, 06:42:44 PM »
At least he's not asking for strategic object choke holds so one guy with bombers can single finger salute a whole country and castrate everyones ability to equaly fight back against the other countrys.

Strategicly his wish is no different than how important M3 have become to localised outcomes in base attacks. On balance this favors the attackers 60\40. M3 resupplies now tend to favor defenders 60\40. M3 driving is not as much for the faint of heart either with everyone looking for them.

If anything the numbers of smaller elements like the importance of M3 that have come into play makes the localised fight more strategic and the availabilty of combat longer in many cases. Stalled fights with lots of localised combat or swift well planned captures seem more to the norm now. This wish at face value would seem to lessen the stalled fight and make captures easier. Or are the stalled long fights with unpredictable outcomes more preferable that resupply M3 facilitate?

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2013, 08:03:19 AM »
Plus taking out ream pads will be well ... just plane fun!  :aok

Hope we get it next update.
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2013, 08:35:38 AM »
 :airplane: There should really be nothing on a map which could not be destroyed, including "depots" where resupply trains and convoys launch from, bridges, runways, and rearm pads! While we can "shut" down a base now by killing all hangars, I think you should also be able to destroy road bridges leading into to town to stop resupply convoys. At least that would give the heavy fighter types something else to destroy and get points for. Bridge would stay down for 15 minutes , just like a hangar!
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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2013, 10:04:48 AM »
Plus taking out ream pads will be well ... just plane fun!  :aok

Hope we get it next update.

LOL!!! I doubt that!


:airplane: There should really be nothing on a map which could not be destroyed, including "depots" where resupply trains and convoys launch from, bridges, runways, and rearm pads! While we can "shut" down a base now by killing all hangars, I think you should also be able to destroy road bridges leading into to town to stop resupply convoys. At least that would give the heavy fighter types something else to destroy and get points for. Bridge would stay down for 15 minutes , just like a hangar!

The problem is this is a GAME. If you go out of your way to take away the ability of others to "play" your force "customers" away. This is what happened way back when you could knock fuel down to 25% at a field. Porkers would take out fuel in an expanding circle around the target base so defenders couldn't get there AND defend. This circle just moved deeper and deeper allowing a small force to roll base after base because nobody had the fuel to get there to defend.

What your proposing is a set-up where you can isolate a base from any kind of defense. While that's a good plan for "win the war" type players not everyone plays that way. HTC has to balance that to try and keep as many "subscribers" as happy has they can.   

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2013, 08:35:52 PM »
The problem is this is a GAME. If you go out of your way to take away the ability of others to "play" your force "customers" away. This is what happened way back when you could knock fuel down to 25% at a field. Porkers would take out fuel in an expanding circle around the target base so defenders couldn't get there AND defend. This circle just moved deeper and deeper allowing a small force to roll base after base because nobody had the fuel to get there to defend.

What your proposing is a set-up where you can isolate a base from any kind of defense. While that's a good plan for "win the war" type players not everyone plays that way. HTC has to balance that to try and keep as many "subscribers" as happy has they can.   

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Re: Air Field Target Wish
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2013, 09:48:22 AM »
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There should really be nothing on a map which could not be destroyed,

I agree.

Planes can always up if the FHs are still up.  Then there are adjacent fields and CVs.

Being able to take down a rearm pad will not ruin the game.  Silly score obsessed thinking.  :old:
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