Air Field Target Wish

[Halo46]

-1 My counter-wish is to remove any and all targets that detract from having to fight another person for instead of just being another way of avoiding combat. Porkers are lame. Fly, fight, win or lose = fun/purpose of playing. Fly, pork, die = waste of time/why bother. Seems a no brainer, but... anything to avoid a fight huh?

[Slade]

-1 My counter-wish is to remove any and all targets that detract from having to fight another person for instead of just being another way of avoiding combat. Porkers are lame. Fly, fight, win or lose = fun/purpose of playing. Fly, pork, die = waste of time/why bother. Seems a no brainer, but... anything to avoid a fight huh?

Halo that is an interesting point.  If I may, your premise is wrong.   Being able to take out the rearm pads may actually encourage better air engagements!  In case it is not obvious, the reason for this is that many use the rearm pad to simply abuse the scoring system.  In that end they fly more cautious and less engaging.

Who knows for sure but how 'bout we try it for a month?  Just a month.  Then put it to a vote.

[Pand]

This is what happened way back when you could knock fuel down to 25% at a field. Porkers would take out fuel in an expanding circle around the target base so defenders couldn't get there AND defend. This circle just moved deeper and deeper allowing a small force to roll base after base because nobody had the fuel to get there to defend.

I remember this and thought it was great! The way it is now you might as well take the fuel targets out of the game as they are no longer strategic targets and provide no purpose.

God forbid someone actually defends a field from the 190 pork and auger scourge.

No offense intended

[The Fugitive]

Halo that is an interesting point.  If I may, your premise is wrong.   Being able to take out the rearm pads may actually encourage better air engagements!  In case it is not obvious, the reason for this is that many use the rearm pad to simply abuse the scoring system.  In that end they fly more cautious and less engaging.

Who knows for sure but how 'bout we try it for a month?  Just a month.  Then put it to a vote.

I doubt that very much, because "those that fight" are the ones who pretty much don't care about score. Also, "how" can one abuse the scoring system by using a rearm pad? With my poor aim I run out of bullets long before I run out of gas. The only time that doesn't matter is when I also run out of wings..... or other parts. I can't say I rearm often.... get shot down often ok, but rearms do happen now and then, and why shouldn't it. I survived a fight or two and made it back to land, taxi to and then reup the same plane. I think I earned another go with the same rig.

I remember this and thought it was great! The way it is now you might as well take the fuel targets out of the game as they are no longer strategic targets and provide no purpose.

God forbid someone actually defends a field from the 190 pork and auger scourge.

No offense intended

The problem is there is very little reason to defend in this game. The majority of players like to go on the attack, with the reward there are for that. Also very few squads will take a defensive posture. Even your squad that works well together either joins in on attacks, or runs fighter sweeps... which is another type of attack.

I prefer to defend as my targets can't run to ack to get away from me. The problem is I am almost always out numbered and get to do very little fighting, just lots of BnZing to stay alive as long as possible. If there were a system that drew more and more people to defend fields then sure make things destroyable, make the players "defend" in stead of the game mechanics doing it for them.

[SlipKnt]

I'd go with it.  However, make it so that if all of the fuel targets are destroyed on a base, then no rearm allowed for fuel.  If the ord is down, then you can't rearm your ammo.  Would make better sense.

 

[Slade]

Also, "how" can one abuse the scoring system by using a rearm pad?

The "sortie".  The concept of what a "sortie" is can and is very abused thanks to the rearm pads.  Though one can say it may take skill to keep rearming to get 5-10 kills per "sortie", a sortie in WWII was never defined as such.  It was defined as each and every time a plane left the ground is a new sortie.  Just do some searches as this topic is covered ad naseam.

Again, there are ample places to up a plane if that is what is desired.


EDIT: I say if we cannot take out the rearm pads then set it so each time a plane leaves the ground is a new sortie as in WWII.  Let peeps rearm all day if they wish.  I suspect that if the FHs are up rearm pad usage will go down to zilch.  

[The Fugitive]

The "sortie".  The concept of what a "sortie" is can and is very abused thanks to the rearm pads.  Though one can say it may take skill to keep rearming to get 5-10 kills per "sortie", a sortie in WWII was never defined as such.  It was defined as each and every time a plane left the ground is a new sortie.  Just do some searches as this topic is covered ad naseam.

Again, there are ample places to up a plane if that is what is desired.


EDIT: I say if we cannot take out the rearm pads then set it so each time a plane leaves the ground is a new sortie as in WWII.  Let peeps rearm all day if they wish.  I suspect that if the FHs are up rearm pad usage will go down to zilch.  

As this is a game, you can throw out any crap about "thats how they did it in the war!"

I doubt very much that very many even rearm let alone "abuse" the system. If you are worried about score, then you should be tweaking your score like everyone else that worries about score. After all it IS the only way to use the score system. If your main argument for this "wish" is to help stop abuse of the score system it is already a lost cause. If it is to be able to completely shut down a field, that isn't going to happen either evidenced by the fuel being able to only be shut down to 75%.

[Slade]

If your main argument for this "wish" is to help stop abuse of the score system it is already a lost cause.

Not really.  It is a convoluted topic yes.   

I'd like to take out the rearm pads please.  I could be wrong but I think their "peripheral uses" have some folks lobbying against this option so it cannot be taken out.  I could not tell you my score or rank.  I sometimes look at my K\D for my own learning though at best.

I say let us do it for a month then put it to a vote if it makes the game better.  What harm could that be?

[waystin2]

Still a nope. 

[kvuo75]

why does anyone care if someone else rearms?


seems like the same thing as saying "i dont care about score" (but really care quite a bit)

[Zoney]

I like using the rearm pad.  I rearm unless I have damage.  Now why is it that you want to take away something that I and others like to do ?  Does rearming harm the game because you think it makes pilots more timid ?  I strongly disagree.  Matters little if you consider the way I fly timid but make no doubt, I will fly the same with or without rearm pads.  You think it's bad because it wasn't used in the real war ?  Neither was auto pilot, auto engine management, auto take off, auto trimming, immortal pilots, communication to enemies, a computer rendered dar map, no mechanical failures and never a need for a barf bag or a massage after 6 g's have wore ya out.

[ink]

I like using the rearm pad.  I rearm unless I have damage.  Now why is it that you want to take away something that I and others like to do ?  Does rearming harm the game because you think it makes pilots more timid ?  I strongly disagree.  Matters little if you consider the way I fly timid but make no doubt, I will fly the same with or without rearm pads.  You think it's bad because it wasn't used in the real war ?  Neither was auto pilot, auto engine management, auto take off, auto trimming, immortal pilots, communication to enemies, a computer rendered dar map, no mechanical failures and never a need for a barf bag or a massage after 6 g's have wore ya out.

 

well said

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