High alt interception with the 410

[shoresroad]

I've had a great deal of fun estimating where the bombers are taking off from, based on best routes to targets , many leave from 4 sectors  behind the lines, you can see the darbars light up.   I fly deep into those sectors at about 15 K and set up a BARCAP and get them while they are climbing up.  Many times, they are AFK.  Sometimes I'll kill just two and take off the ailerons and rudder on the last.

Traveler,

What does AFK stand for/mean?

Thanks!

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Traveler,

What does AFK stand for/mean?

Thanks!

Away From Keyboard

[Tank-Ace]

Tank you can never know id they are rtb or just extending for another run.

K.....  Still not an intercept. And still enough time for a solid 2 passes.

[Torquila]

And there is a problem with that?

[Babalonian]

We took 410s up to 30k and past in the last scenario. They're not terrible up there. Not great, but not terrible. We were keeping pace with the heavy 190A8s and even outpacing them several times. Definitely better than a heavy A8 at altitude.

Like Lusche said, the problem is you need to already be at alt and waiting for the targets. Since that's almost impossible most times, you're going to find you do a lot of chasing for very little reward.

The up-side? When you do catch them it is QUITE a reward, indeed! Those few seconds of joy keep you going through the hours of boredom chasing. At least, it seems to keep me going.

At military power the 410 can outclimb the 190A8, and below 30k the 410 is faster at Mil power, that's about where the buck stops for the 410 vs A8 at high altitude.

[Tank-Ace]

And there is a problem with that?

Yeah... Actually, it kinda precludes any engagement constituting an intercept. "Oh,  I intercepted the ball... 2 yards past the goal line "


The fact is that interception requires you to engage before they drop, and the 410 simply can't do that in many cases.

[morfiend]

Yeah... Actually, it kinda precludes any engagement constituting an intercept. "Oh,  I intercepted the ball... 2 yards past the goal line "


The fact is that interception requires you to engage before they drop, and the 410 simply can't do that in many cases.

  Do you even play this game??   why are you in the help and training forum stirring things up?

     If you must post in here plz keep it on subject and of a helpful nature or take it to the O'club.





   

[Tank-Ace]

  Do you even play this game??   why are you in the help and training forum stirring things up?

     If you must post in here plz keep it on subject and of a helpful nature or take it to the O'club.

Off and on. And I'm not attempting to stir things up, just got side tracked by Torquilla's maunderings. Sorry.



Anyway, back on topic: Theres pretty much no way you can actually intercept bombers at high altitude, without having at LEAST 25 minutes warning, assuming you engage right out of the climb.

And up at high altitudes, the performance is abyssamal wth heavy gun packages and fuel, and if you go Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recovery Labs??????????????Data Recoverterceptor.

[Torquila]

While I agree with tank that most of the time there is little point chasing a heavily damaged or rtb bomber, most of the time you have no idea if its a second runner.

I have let bombers go in the past only to see them re-run.

Its not as simple as you think.

[Tank-Ace]

While I agree with tank that most of the time there is little point chasing a heavily damaged or rtb bomber, most of the time you have no idea if its a second run.

I have let bombers go in the past only to see them re-run.

Its not as simple as you think.

You miss my point: It takes the 410 almost 12 minutes to reach 20k when light, and with the same firepower as an A8. The "exit the sector" comment was just to give a feel for how unimpressive that is. For comparison, the K4 can make 10k in around 2.1 minutes, 20K in under 5 minutes, and 30K in less than 9.

Just stop and think about that for a second.... Even at greater than twice the rate of climb of the 410, the K4 will still be hard-pressed to intercept and shoot down a set of B-24's at 20K without making stupid dead-six attacks.... assuming he upped the instant he saw the base flash.

Double that time, and the B-24s have already made their second pass if they're good. And by reaching 20K, you've already used up all your WEP, and so are even slower than your max numbers would suggest. Accelerating will be an issue, since you've climbed at around 170mph the entire time, and the bombers are doing roughly 287mph. Now he's turned for his third and final pass, and is lined up on targets.....



See what I mean? The 410 simply cannot intercept and engage typical bombers at even med-high alt, under anything but the absolute best of circumstances. If you want to say "Well, it might happen..." fine, but the Help & Training section isn't a great place for long-odds.

[coombz]

Off and on. And I'm not attempting to stir things up, just got side tracked by Torquilla's maunderings. Sorry.

lol I am not trying to stir things up and I have been resisting the temptation to make fun of Tank-Ace for weeks now...

but honestly

maunderings?!?!  seriously?    not content with merely butchering the English language on a regular basis, Tank-Ace is now making up his own words to add to it...

and by 'off and on', you mean you haven't had an active subscription since when exactly? I wonder what the great Snail's stats would say about the level of your actual in game activity...when compared to the amount of time you spend spewing your worthless opinions on the game forums

[icepac]

There is a difference between "Service Ceiling" and "Absolute Ceiling".

If you invest the time and effort, you can reap the rewards.

I'll try the 410 later but the 110 can do something similar if you don't take any ord and the extra gunpod though it takes a substantial amount of fuel leaving you short time to run down high buffs.

Mossie is sweet sweet sweet!!

[Tank-Ace]

lol I am not trying to stir things up and I have been resisting the temptation to make fun of Tank-Ace for weeks now...

but honestly

maunderings?!?!  seriously?    not content with merely butchering the English language on a regular basis, Tank-Ace is now making up his own words to add to it...

and by 'off and on', you mean you haven't had an active subscription since when exactly? I wonder what the great Snail's stats would say about the level of your actual in game activity...when compared to the amount of time you spend spewing your worthless opinions on the game forums

Google it you dip s***. Even if it's not in your English, its in ours, and frankly that carries more weight with me.

[coombz]

  what a spastic

[Tank-Ace]

What a spastic.

Such a sour little troll you are. For New Zealand's sake, I hope you're less abrasive and/or stupid in real life than you are here on the forums.

Oh, and its a bit comical, how you make litterally no effort to use correct punctuation after insulting my use of the English language (I've bolded the corrections I've made in your quoted post, for your convenience). In fact, I'd dare say I use it far better than you, despite making more mistakes.


Actually, I think such a large mistake on your part warrants more than just a verbal thrashing. On to the ignore list you go; congratulations, you've succeeded in losing the little respect I had left for you. Goodbye.