Window

[jeffdn]

I was thinking it would be neat if, for a perk price, Mosquitos and Lancasters could drop packets of window in a sector and throw up a large dar bar. Just a thought!

[SmokinLoon]

I was thinking it would be neat if, for a perk price, Mosquitos and Lancasters could drop packets of window in a sector and throw up a large dar bar. Just a thought!

Hmm.   

[Karnak]

I'd think Window would manifest, in game terms, as a cluster of radar contacts, but no additional dar bar.

[titanic3]

-1

Aids hordes. Promotes zero combat. Nope for me.

[jeffdn]

-1

Aids hordes. Promotes zero combat. Nope for me.

What is a horde? I see many decry them, but it requires the efforts multiple players to take a base. Is it only a "horde" when the other teams do it? Every team shuts down hangars. Every team vulches fields. Every team does NOE missions.

I offered this as an idea that may make strategic feints a bit more possible. As it stands, it is remarkably easy to figure out everything that is going on from a quick glance at the map.

[RedBull1]

I would classify a horde as any 'mission' of 20+ people trying to take 1 base.

It is in fact not only a horde when the other country does it, hell I complain more about when I see green hordes than red ones....Can't shoot the green ones down

[Karnak]

I'd not object to Window as I described it because that would allow players to avoid being fooled by looking at the dar bar.  If it just made the dar bar give a false reading that would look the same as a nape of the earth horde attack.

Also, Window messed with radar (dot dar in AH) not observers and battlefield reports (dar bar in AH) so having it give a false dar bar reading seems wrong.

[manglex1]

Although the idea is good, I think it would be pointless to put into the game. If someone were to put window out and made a bunch of dots on the dar all we need to do is look at the dar bar and see its fake.

[jeffdn]

I'd not object to Window as I described it because that would allow players to avoid being fooled by looking at the dar bar.  If it just made the dar bar give a false reading that would look the same as a nape of the earth horde attack.

Also, Window messed with radar (dot dar in AH) not observers and battlefield reports (dar bar in AH) so having it give a false dar bar reading seems wrong.

I can see that being useful for, say, a lone bomber dropping a town or something. They are currently almost ludicrously easy to intercept; were the dar ring to go crazy with false readings, they might stand a tiny bit better chance. They could also be used in conjunction with a raid passing a field, as the aircraft loaded with window packets could make it seem like that was the field being raided, when in reality it was being passed.

[titanic3]

What is a horde? I see many decry them, but it requires the efforts multiple players to take a base. Is it only a "horde" when the other teams do it? Every team shuts down hangars. Every team vulches fields. Every team does NOE missions.
It's a horde when 20 does what only requires 5. And yes, I have cried out against friendlies taking down fighter hangars or killing a good CV fight.

I offered this as an idea that may make strategic feints a bit more possible. As it stands, it is remarkably easy to figure out everything that is going on from a quick glance at the map.
Good, it promotes combat, exactly what I want in a video game. I don't pay $15 to find metal strips floating in the air.

[The Fugitive]

What is a horde? I see many decry them, but it requires the efforts multiple players to take a base. Is it only a "horde" when the other teams do it? Every team shuts down hangars. Every team vulches fields. Every team does NOE missions.

I offered this as an idea that may make strategic feints a bit more possible. As it stands, it is remarkably easy to figure out everything that is going on from a quick glance at the map.

A horde is 20+ guys to take a V-base, or any base for that matter. NOE's are just as bad. This last map we had Saturday (large map with all the islands) is a NOEer's paradise. In the 6 hours I was on I think I only saw 2 or 3 missions move across sectors. All you see is dots popping at a base as soon as it flashes. All that water makes it easy enough for anyway to fly NOE.

As for feints and there pretty easy to do now. Have a few guys fly in and drop the shore guns at a port/field. Over the next hour have a single guy wave hop popping up every now and then to pop dar. How many guys do you think you could tie up at the shore base, and for how long? The same goes for de-acking a field. You'll have guys covering it until the guns start coming up, mean while your hitting a base 3 sectors away.

I don't think we need things to make it any harder to find a fight than it already is with the cowards we have flying now anyway.

[Tank-Ace]

What is a horde? I see many decry them, but it requires the efforts multiple players to take a base. Is it only a "horde" when the other teams do it? Every team shuts down hangars. Every team vulches fields. Every team does NOE missions.

I offered this as an idea that may make strategic feints a bit more possible. As it stands, it is remarkably easy to figure out everything that is going on from a quick glance at the map.

A horde is a large group of players whose primary goal is to shut down and either vulch or take bases, with as little actual combat, through any and every means available.

Also a group becomes a horde when it encounters resistance of roughly comparable strength, and others are drawn by the darbar.

[coombz]

What is a horde? I see many decry them, but it requires the efforts multiple players to take a base.

you can take a base with much less than a 'horde' if you have a bit of skill and team work

[guncrasher]

you can take a base with much less than a 'horde' if you have a bit of skill and team work

yeah sure it's easy, if there arent any defenders.  10 guys attacking will definitely destroy a base assuming 1 bomber, 1 goon and 8 fighters heavy fighters.  but it all depends if the players defending want to actually defend the base. 3 or 4 guys defending will stop the base take easily.

the attacking team is more dependent on the defenders' skill than on their own.



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[icepac]

Jeff....don't sweat the harshness of the -1s.

Many here are jaded.

I am jaded but am able to step back here unlike in the arenas.