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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2013, 12:41:57 PM »
Bostons with rockets?
Formations of rocket boats.  :rock :x
Now i wonder, do we have any formation planes that can fire rockets?

Actually, that would be a HUGE nod to historical accuracy.  Rockets were used as an "area effect" weapon, not a precisely aimed weapon.  Sure, there were exceptions to the rule like the German Pb1's from the 190F-8, but that is about it.

I think it would be good to see a formation of Boston's in a shallow dive launching rockets from a distance on town.   :aok  THAT would bring a while new element to AH, no doubt. 
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2013, 01:11:03 PM »
Actually, that would be a HUGE nod to historical accuracy.  Rockets were used as an "area effect" weapon, not a precisely aimed weapon.  Sure, there were exceptions to the rule like the German Pb1's from the 190F-8, but that is about it.

I think it would be good to see a formation of Boston's in a shallow dive launching rockets from a distance on town.   :aok  THAT would bring a while new element to AH, no doubt. 

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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2013, 02:01:01 PM »
typhoons after D-Day?

Typhoons used the rockets as an "area effect" weapon as an SOP.  They may have fired them at a specific target, but certainly not 2 rockets vs a static target with precision aiming like we do here in AH.  Typhoon, Mossi's, etc, P47's, etc, they all fired their rockets as an area effect weapon.  There is a reason the rockets were usually all fired in one pass.   ;)   
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2013, 07:14:38 PM »
Usually, yes, though there is that footage of a Tiffie firing two rockets at a time, nailing a curving road way with each pair.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2013, 10:39:50 PM »
Usually, yes, though there is that footage of a Tiffie firing two rockets at a time, nailing a curving road way with each pair.

Indeed.  Fired in a single pass though.

This the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwN3ZvIe6Yc

This shows some nice footage as well. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=PgTJZ_cWaT0
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2013, 12:24:39 AM »
Indeed.  Fired in a single pass though.

This the one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwN3ZvIe6Yc

Yup.  Yes, single pass, but not salvoed all at once.

I am still very impressed with his accuracy with the things compared to, well, every other bit of footage I've seen.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2013, 02:31:18 AM »
Typhoons used the rockets as an "area effect" weapon as an SOP.  They may have fired them at a specific target, but certainly not 2 rockets vs a static target with precision aiming like we do here in AH.  Typhoon, Mossi's, etc, P47's, etc, they all fired their rockets as an area effect weapon.  There is a reason the rockets were usually all fired in one pass.   ;)   
That is not true for coastal command Mosquitoes and Beaufighters. They made excellent use of rockets against ships which are not an area target. They did however fire them in a single salvo for three reasons: One was to do as much damage on the first pass given the murderous AA return fire. The second is that they attacked in a swarm and each plane had to make its pass and move out of the way of the other planes. The third was they they also strafed the target with the 20mm on the same pass and firing a full salvo freed them to aim the guns.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2013, 07:49:58 PM »
Here you go.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,288751.0.html

Ok lots of pics with rockets.....did any where in there did it say FACTORY made or how many. I thought that in order to have in AH it had to be factory made and widely used....oops I am wrong.....look at the 163.....it's here so why not A20 with rockets...you all win :salute
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2013, 10:54:40 PM »
Ok lots of pics with rockets.....did any where in there did it say FACTORY made or how many. I thought that in order to have in AH it had to be factory made and widely used....oops I am wrong.....look at the 163.....it's here so why not A20 with rockets...you all win :salute

Can't find anything about factory made. How ever you can say the same about the nose loaded B-25C's these were not done by the factory. They were field modifications done in Australia.

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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2013, 08:20:01 AM »
The 4 20MM cannon were used on the P70 nightfighter version ( i thought ) and I believe there were drag issues associated with the rocket launchers. I believe the first 250 A20G were produced with a 4x20MM/2 x 50calgun package to which the the cannon were found unreliable and replaced with 50 cals.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2013, 09:16:17 AM »
Don''t get me wrong I would be all for adding that to the A20's options.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #26 on: April 07, 2013, 12:17:20 PM »
 :airplane: Don't want to start an argument, but, why not take a P-38L, instead of modifying the A-20. Its faster, more capable of defending itself and it already has the 20MM cannon, although only 150 rounds. Smaller target for the ack as well.
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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2013, 12:26:28 PM »
:airplane: Don't want to start an argument, but, why not take a P-38L, instead of modifying the A-20. Its faster, more capable of defending itself and it already has the 20MM cannon, although only 150 rounds. Smaller target for the ack as well.
People have different preferences.  Also, the P-38 doesn't carry eight 500lb bombs.

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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #28 on: April 07, 2013, 01:43:06 PM »
Something tells me the majority of you aren't upping panthers and tigers very often.

Perk the A20, it is by far and away the only plane to me that perk wise doesn't make sense. How is it that you can up from a field with one and destroy another player's perk ride within 45 seconds to 2mins+ depending on how long it takes you to find them and kill their perk (and not have this thing perked?)  Compare that reasoning to the same behind our other perk rides. Its so easy you could do it $#@&faced and with one hand, F3 mode and no fighter ever comes close, but if they do run to ack and repeat. 


A20 w/rockets, sure 15perks.


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Re: Wish for the A-20G/Boston III to get rockets
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2013, 02:06:16 PM »
Something tells me the majority of you aren't upping panthers and tigers very often.

Perk the A20, it is by far and away the only plane to me that perk wise doesn't make sense. How is it that you can up from a field with one and destroy another player's perk ride within 45 seconds to 2mins+ depending on how long it takes you to find them and kill their perk (and not have this thing perked?)  Compare that reasoning to the same behind our other perk rides. Its so easy you could do it $#@&faced and with one hand, F3 mode and no fighter ever comes close, but if they do run to ack and repeat. 


A20 w/rockets, sure 15perks.


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That comment makes no sense.  If the A-20G can bomb and kill you, the P-51D, P-47D-25, -40, P-47N, P-38, F4U-1D, -1C, -4, Bf110G-2, Fw190F-8, Me410, Mosquito and Typhoon can all do the same.  The A-20G has no magical ability to kill GVs, it just carries a lot of bombs, but at the expense of being vulnerable to fighters.

Also, the 4.5" rockets are, at least in my tests, incapable of hurting a Tiger II.  Even the British 60lb rockets couldn't hurt it.  Only the Fw190F-8's rockets were a threat.
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