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Offline Skuzzy

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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #45 on: May 24, 2013, 06:38:35 AM »
Hajo, are you running an externally powered USB hub?  Or is your gear plugged directly into a USB port on the computer?
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #46 on: May 24, 2013, 07:09:40 AM »
Quote from: Skuzzy on May 24, 2013, 06:38:35 AM
Hajo, are you running an externally powered USB hub?  Or is your gear plugged directly into a USB port on the computer?

And if you're running an external hub (which would negate the chance of a typical problem of motherboard not being able to supply enough juice to the USB ports to which I think Skuzzy is referring to), have you tried plugging the sticks directly to the computer? I've seen hubs go bad.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #47 on: May 24, 2013, 07:36:56 PM »
I am running a powered USB Hub that is recognized as a powered USB Hub by windows8.

I also have disabled Windows from powering down the USB devices if it detects no usage.

Just in case I am going to purchase a new powered Hub.  My Ch gear is connected to that powered Hub

as is my USB mouse which was connected to the PC.  When I lost the mouse icon I moved the

mouse to the powered hub from the pc.  Even when moving the mouse to the powered hub it

did no good, the icon (pointer) was still gone.  At that point ASUS suggested I refresh the system.

After the refresh the mouse worked well.  The only time the mouse would show up was in F2/Delete

previous to the refresh.  <shrugz>.  I could get to the BIOS and the mouse was functioning

if I wanted to make system changes.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #48 on: May 25, 2013, 01:53:22 AM »
Quote from: Hajo on May 24, 2013, 07:36:56 PM
I am running a powered USB Hub that is recognized as a powered USB Hub by windows8.

I also have disabled Windows from powering down the USB devices if it detects no usage.

Just in case I am going to purchase a new powered Hub.  My Ch gear is connected to that powered Hub

as is my USB mouse which was connected to the PC.  When I lost the mouse icon I moved the

mouse to the powered hub from the pc.  Even when moving the mouse to the powered hub it

did no good, the icon (pointer) was still gone.  At that point ASUS suggested I refresh the system.

After the refresh the mouse worked well.  The only time the mouse would show up was in F2/Delete

previous to the refresh.  <shrugz>.  I could get to the BIOS and the mouse was functioning

if I wanted to make system changes.

So it strongly seems like the CH software is not compatible with Win8. Your best option is probably to switch to Win7.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #49 on: May 25, 2013, 06:09:44 AM »
Count me as one of the millions of Microsoft OS users who has little knowledge, or desire to learn, the ins and outs of registry manipulation, SDK's, kernal tweaking, etc. If I'm to spend $150-$200 for the latest version of Windows, I expect a trouble free user experience. From where I stand, Me, Vista and now 8 have been less than trouble free for many users. Fortunately, I've managed to ride the wave of reliable platforms - 98SE, XP, 7 Ultimate Home.

Were I, like Hajo, to spend upwards of $1k on a new computer and find hardware componants (which ran fine and smooth the day before) to now be the source of endless frustration, well.....I'd be pissed. Just sayen.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #50 on: May 25, 2013, 10:48:29 AM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on May 25, 2013, 01:53:22 AM
So it strongly seems like the CH software is not compatible with Win8. Your best option is probably to switch to Win7.

Ch software uninstalled Rip  and controllers unplugged.  For some reason at the graphic screen before start the mouse disappeared.

I with no mouse could not click anywhere on screen to log on.  Had to refresh at that point.  I am not looking to point the finger

at anyone or anything....just trying to solve the  problem.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #51 on: May 25, 2013, 06:06:26 PM »
Pretty much every 2nd microsoft OS is a beta for the good one coming after, and customers are paying the price.
I would definitively wait for the next version of MS coming.




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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #52 on: May 26, 2013, 02:25:08 AM »
Quote from: Hajo on May 25, 2013, 10:48:29 AM
Ch software uninstalled Rip  and controllers unplugged.  For some reason at the graphic screen before start the mouse disappeared.

I with no mouse could not click anywhere on screen to log on.  Had to refresh at that point.  I am not looking to point the finger

at anyone or anything....just trying to solve the  problem.

If the problem was in the OS the refresh would not fix the problem. When you install software that uses Windows registry and/or installs drivers, it alters system settings. Uninstall more often than not cannot fully reverse the changes made. Only a system refresh or reinstall will reset the registry and refresh the system files the CH software possibly has altered or replaced.
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #53 on: May 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM »
Quote from: MrRiplEy[H] on May 26, 2013, 02:25:08 AM
If the problem was in the OS the refresh would not fix the problem. When you install software that uses Windows registry and/or installs drivers, it alters system settings. Uninstall more often than not cannot fully reverse the changes made. Only a system refresh or reinstall will reset the registry and refresh the system files the CH software possibly has altered or replaced.

I did that....CH products are still connected after the refresh.  I am not going to install CH Manager etc. unless CH develops drivers for win8.

To much instability within the system at this time between win8 and Ch drivers.  With XP I didn't have CH drivers installed, XP handled all my USB precisely with no problems.

Unfortunately Microsoft has done nothing to update their windows USB drivers, even in Win8 the date of the USB Microsoft drivers are from 2006.  <shrugz>

Methinks they need to write new ones when the release a new operating system to keep up with technology.   jmho
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #54 on: May 26, 2013, 10:23:32 AM »
Quote from: Hajo on May 26, 2013, 10:04:56 AM
I did that....CH products are still connected after the refresh.  I am not going to install CH Manager etc. unless CH develops drivers for win8.

To much instability within the system at this time between win8 and Ch drivers.  With XP I didn't have CH drivers installed, XP handled all my USB precisely with no problems.

Unfortunately Microsoft has done nothing to update their windows USB drivers, even in Win8 the date of the USB Microsoft drivers are from 2006.  <shrugz>

Methinks they need to write new ones when the release a new operating system to keep up with technology.   jmho

The 8.1 update is going to be released for free soon, maybe that will bring some help to your situation.
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Re: Windows 8
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #56 on: May 30, 2013, 10:51:58 AM »
See Rule #4
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Re: Windows 8
« Reply #57 on: May 30, 2013, 01:29:22 PM »
See Rule #4
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