Anyone artistic?

[pervert]

water color is easy compared to oil....but all the mediums pale in comparison to working in skin.

I work in both, watercolour is by far the harder medium to paint well in, oil you can scrape off and start again or paint over, oils are also mostly opaque, watercolours are nearly all transparent and dry 1000 times quicker.

Its like dip ink pen vs pencil you can rub pencil out, ink you get one shot at it thats the same as watercolour.

I wonder how many people could reproduce something like this in watercolour?

[Zacherof]

Oh my. 
that is amazing

[Zacherof]

water color is easy compared to oil....but all the mediums pale in comparison to working in skin.

I want to my flesh into a personell canvas

[pervert]

I wouldn't fancy ink on skin in case I was in a lazy mood, from my understanding of it though you trace over an outline is that right ink? And Zach that is by Turner probably the best watercolour painter of all time.

[ink]

I work in both, watercolour is by far the harder medium to paint well in, oil you can scrape off and start again or paint over, oils are also mostly opaque, watercolours are nearly all transparent and dry 1000 times quicker.

Its like dip ink pen vs pencil you can rub pencil out, ink you get one shot at it thats the same as watercolour.

I wonder how many people could reproduce something like this in watercolour?

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ok

ya thats all you gotta do is trace a line on a canvas....that stretches and is very pliable and is never the same consistency....is round....is moving constantly......answers the phone.... talks to much....cries because it hurts.....passes out from endorphins.....that has no chance to erase.....  that has to be a perfect depth.... at the perfect angle.....so now you have a outline...how about coloring it in....is there a guide for shading....how do you do that........how do you get a perfect consistency in color when your tool is only so wide and a mm in depth difference will show in the end results...

now thats just for your regular wall flash...how about custom one of a kind freehand work......

ya real easy



just because you fiddle with some paint, don't make you an artist.....you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


good day

[Zacherof]

I got so far as getting paper plate, orange peels, and I lost parieace with pig skin. Not to mention my gun broke can't afford a new one.
I have tons of ideas for tats

and btw ink, you said you do ink yes?

[pervert]

ok

ya thats all you gotta do is trace a line on a canvas....that stretches and is very pliable and is never the same consistency....is round....is moving constantly......answers the phone.... talks to much....cries because it hurts.....passes out from endorphins.....that has no chance to erase.....  that has to be a perfect depth.... at the perfect angle.....so now you have a outline...how about coloring it in....is there a guide for shading....how do you do that........how do you get a perfect consistency in color when your tool is only so wide and a mm in depth difference will show in the end results...

now thats just for your regular wall flash...how about custom one of a kind freehand work......

ya real easy



just because you fiddle with some paint, don't make you an artist.....you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.


good day

Hmmm well looks like someone threw his dummy out of the pram  I was simply answering your question here, many apologys for having a differing opinion 

[ink]

I got so far as getting paper plate, orange peels, and I lost parieace with pig skin. Not to mention my gun broke can't afford a new one.
I have tons of ideas for tats

and btw ink, you said you do ink yes?

first off "guns" have bullets, a "Tattoo Machine"  has needles that inserts ink into skin.

yes I have been doing custom freehand tattooing for 25 years.

Hmmm well looks like someone threw his dummy out of the pram  I was simply answering your question here, many apologys for having a differing opinion 

don't recall asking a question

having an opinion is one thing....does not make it fact...you stated a false hood as fact, I corrected.

[pervert]

don't recall asking a question

water color is easy compared to oil

Looks like a question to me, or that you are questioning what I said to which I should have further explained myself...

having an opinion is one thing....does not make it fact...you stated a false hood as fact, I corrected.

So what your saying here is that I am not allowed to voice my opinion on a subject? It is just that, the normal progression would be that we would then have an enjoyable time debating the pros and cons of different mediums because we both like art. Your above statement is a contradiction of itself because you place yourself as 'fact' while slating another for what you perceive as stating a fact.

[ink]

Looks like a question to me, or that you are questioning what I said to which I should have further explained myself...

So what your saying here is that I am not allowed to voice my opinion on a subject? It is just that, the normal progression would be that we would then have an enjoyable time debating the pros and cons of different mediums because we both like art. Your above statement is a contradiction of itself because you place yourself as 'fact' while slating another for what you perceive as stating a fact.

usually a question is followed by one of these----->   ?

I made a statement....big difference.

I will say obviously some may find water color difficult, as is oil, or any medium.... so I guess we are both wrong....it depends on what that particular person finds difficult/easy....

fact is Tattooing, is by far the most difficult medium......along with everything else I said about it, you have to compensate for longevity because the skin sheds and sloughs off as time goes by, and what/how you do today, you have to consider what it will look like in 20 years.   

[Zacherof]

Well you knew exactly what I meant

[pervert]

usually a question is followed by one of these----->   ?

I made a statement....big difference.

I will say obviously some may find water color difficult, as is oil, or any medium.... so I guess we are both wrong....it depends on what that particular person finds difficult/easy....

fact is Tattooing, is by far the most difficult medium......along with everything else I said about it, you have to compensate for longevity because the skin sheds and sloughs off as time goes by, and what/how you do today, you have to consider what it will look like in 20 years.   

A statement is either universally accepted or based on hard fact, what you have mentioned regarding tattooing is neither, simply your opinion though valid enough through your experience. I still find it amusing that you haven't cottoned on to the fact that your are angry because you thought I was doing what you are now doing.

I was asking because a friend I used to know told me that tattoists use some form of tracing before the actual ink goes on and I wanted to know what that was.

[titanic3]

[pervert]

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[ink]

A statement is either universally accepted or based on hard fact, what you have mentioned regarding tattooing is neither, simply your opinion though valid enough through your experience. I still find it amusing that you haven't cottoned on to the fact that your are angry because you thought I was doing what you are now doing.

I was asking because a friend I used to know told me that tattoists use some form of tracing before the actual ink goes on and I wanted to know what that was.

Angry.....no

it is called a "stencil" it is the outline..... you transfer it to the skin and then try to follow the lines, it also can wipe off quite easy, like I said that is for your basic wall flash, 90% of the work I have done is freehand, no stencil, a quick pen drawing, then again I have done many tatts where there was no stencil..no lines, just grab the Machine and go to work.

and if my description of tattooing doesn't put into perspective the difficulty of doing good tattoos....nothing will.

you are working on living breathing canvases, that change over time.....

ya painting on the surface of a canvas that don't move.... is always constantly the same denseness, you don't have to actually paint INTO the canvas and worry about the surface sloughing off......

bah..... I typed way to much already  

Well you knew exactly what I meant

 

I did, and nothing substitutes human skin.

best to work on yourself, the legs and whatnot....get the feeling then get 1 person to be a practice dummy....