Lanc .303's overmodelled?

[danny76]

12 .303's on a Hurri are not really worth the bother of pulling the trigger over about 400 yards. 12 .303's in Lanc turrets seem to be pretty lethal out to 1k. Anyone else noticed this?

[waystin2]

Nope.  I stay away from bomber tails.  Bad place, baaaaad place....

[mechanic]

There is a lanc loadout with .50s in the tail isn't there? Sure it isn't that you're noticing?

[danny76]

Nope. definately .303's confirmed by the lanc driver. I spend forevet trying to get above, in front of, to the high side of bombers. After years of playing I still cannot manage it. I can get co alt and climb above fightrrs but bombers, no chance. Never have been able to explain it

[mechanic]

Bombers scare me more than any fighter.

[Eric19]

the lanc quad 303s in the tail with 10k rounds is more than enough to kill any fighter in the game it does seem a bit over powering just a 2 second burst from them at a fighters wingroot will shred the wing right off and I have been flying the lanc almost exclusively since the update and its a very good defender now because of the 303s but also they seem to have decreased the amout of damage a lancaster will take I guess to balance out the quad 303s in the tail idk it does seem that its a bit overmodled to me but I would like some more answers on that before jumping to any further conclusions

[palef]

12x.303s in lanc turrets? Or do you mean the 12 presented to the rear by a formation of lancs? If you're behind and slightly above a formation, there are times when there are 18x.303s firing at you.

Also the differences between maneuvering fighters and a relatively stationary buff being attacked by a maneuvering fighter have been well documented elsewhere, so your original analogy isn't that relevant.

There was an argument during WWII between weight of fire and rate of fire, hence the reliance on .303s by the British to start with. However the results of practical experience enabled (lots of senior British fighter pilots were dismissive of pilots opening fire at ranges over 200yds which made the unofficial opinion of a bunch of exceptional pilots almost doctrine) the adoption of cannon and meant that weight of fire, combined with HE cannon shells won the argument, particularly if you were forced to use pilots who wouldn't normally have made the grade in peacetime. A couple of 20mm Hispano rounds did actual damage where a couple of .303 rounds might have gone unremarked.

A bomber gunner is able to engage and track a target in a way that a fighter pilot can't and can adjust for projectile drop and deflection while hosing the target down. There has been a lot of discussion about the effective range of .50s and .303s in regard to buffs and the prevailing wisdom is that a stable platform combined with unconverged buff guns results in the "laser" effect so many complain of.

[FLS]

12 .303's on a Hurri are not really worth the bother of pulling the trigger over about 400 yards. 12 .303's in Lanc turrets seem to be pretty lethal out to 1k. Anyone else noticed this?

There's a big difference between shooting at someone in front of you and shooting at someone behind you. When you're flying into the bullets instead of away from them they seem to have a longer range.

[LilMak]

Don't think I've been killed by a Lanc since the update and I've brought plenty down.

[Gixer]

There has been a lot of discussion about the effective range of .50s and .303s in regard to buffs and the prevailing wisdom is that a stable platform combined with unconverged buff guns results in the "laser" effect so many complain of.

And why some timid fighters run to a buff to clear their six. Funny thought it was suppose to be the other way around.   


<S>...-Gixer

[Dragon Tamer]

Bombers scare me more than any fighter.

Was in a furball one time and it was announced that the B-17s coming in had 999000 at the stick. Every friendly scattered away from the 17s with a select, very stupid few going after them. I laughed so hard that day.

I've just decided to not go after bombers unless I have a very clear advantage (over HQ in a 163). I get killt by them every time I try. The only bomber formation that I've been able to kill recently was a group of 17s on the deck going after our CV.

[danny76]

I was not being hit by top turrets, just the rear guns, damage list went : engine oil, gun, gun, radiator, pilot wound, left wing. All in the space of second, to the soundtrack of tingtingtingtingtingtingting

[Bludwulf]

Nope. definately .303's confirmed by the lanc driver. I spend forevet trying to get above, in front of, to the high side of bombers. After years of playing I still cannot manage it. I can get co alt and climb above fightrrs but bombers, no chance. Never have been able to explain it

I came in behind 2 Lancs in a Corsair with little difficulty. I heard the failure pinging of the .30cals but it did not stop my attack.

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

 

[Bruv119]

Lancs ARE awesome.   

Work your angles better or attack from more favourable positions.