K4 is easy mode vs. K4 is a symbol of courage

[Arlo]

Kourage!

[Zacherof]

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Kourage!

arlo, this is the wrong thread. Pictures of ayers go in saidforum

btw you need a haircut

[Arlo]

arlo, this is the wrong thread. Pictures of ayers go in saidforum

btw you need a haircut

Then I suppose I shouldn't be posting yours here, either. 

[Zacherof]

Was going through a rough patch with my heroin withdrawls and divorce.

[Karnak]

Absolutely not. WEP in AH recharges ad infinitum. Once the "cool down time" is over, you have full WEP again. You can do this cycle without end as long as you have fuel. That gives planes like the Ta 152H with it's 10/5 min cycle really an edge over those with a slower cycle.

The question I have is why the Merlins in American aircraft have a 5/5 minute WEP cycle and the Merlins in British aircraft have a 5/10 minute WEP cycle.  This really puts WEP based fighters like the Mosquito Mk VI and Spitfire Mk XIV (Griffon, I know) at a relative disadvantage.

[bozon]

The question I have is why the Merlins in American aircraft have a 5/5 minute WEP cycle and the Merlins in British aircraft have a 5/10 minute WEP cycle.  This really puts WEP based fighters like the Mosquito Mk VI and Spitfire Mk XIV (Griffon, I know) at a relative disadvantage.

Good question!
(I did not know there was a difference, but if this is the case then I really want to know the reason)

[Franz Von Werra]

uhh... not sure what in game tests show, but chart says its worse...

p51's are 5mins wep / 10 mins recharge.
spits, mossys, and hurrys are 5mins wep / 15minutes recharge.

In airwarrior3, I think the 109F had 15minutes wep... btw.

[Karnak]

You're right, FVW.  Thanks for the correction on WEP cycles.  5/15 is still a disadvantage compared to a 5/10 cycle.

Also, to be clear, I don't begrudge the German aircraft their 10/5 or Ki-84 it's 1.5/.75 mintute WEP cycles at all. It is one of the advantages you get for choosing one of those fighters.  The Ki-84's is even a two edged one as it has the disadvanttage of a short sustained WEP. That really affects how I use those fighters and gives the game more depth.

[save]

The 190A's wep-cycle is 10 minutes / re-spawn new plane.
With little over 30 minutes flying time ( without etc-droptank) you will never get back a out-wepped 190 to normal temperature without reduce throttle very aggressively.

difference flying with / without etc-rack translates to being caught by spit16/ki84, not being caught chased low.



 

[GScholz]

I have the impression that the various cooling times are pretty arbitrary considering the very simple and generic way WEP is simulated.

[Lusche]

With little over 30 minutes flying time ( without etc-droptank) you will never get back a out-wepped 190 to normal temperature without reduce throttle very aggressively

There's a misconception in it: Reducing the throttle has no influence on "cool down" times. It's not based on temperatures, it's a function only depending on a timer.

[Karnak]

I have the impression that the various cooling times are pretty arbitrary considering the very simple and generic way WEP is simulated.

I'd imagine so.  I just want to know why my Merlins take 50% longer to cool off compared to a P-51's Merline.  Heck, the Spitfire Mk IX and the P-51B have the same engine, just the Spitfire's is a Rolls Royce built Merlin 61 and the P-51B's is a Packard built Merlin 61 under an American designation.  And it can't be the Packard vs Rolls Royce issue as the Spitfire Mk XVI and Lancaster Mk III (not that I have tested the WEP cycle on the Lancaster) both use Packard built Merlins.

[Debrody]

There's a misconception in it: Reducing the throttle has no influence on "cool down" times. It's not based on temperatures, it's a function only depending on a timer.

I think Save meant, if the trottle is reduced, the plane might have enough flight time to recharge the wep.

[Vinkman]

I'd imagine so.  I just want to know why my Merlins take 50% longer to cool off compared to a P-51's Merline.  Heck, the Spitfire Mk IX and the P-51B have the same engine, just the Spitfire's is a Rolls Royce built Merlin 61 and the P-51B's is a Packard built Merlin 61 under an American designation.  And it can't be the Packard vs Rolls Royce issue as the Spitfire Mk XVI and Lancaster Mk III (not that I have tested the WEP cycle on the Lancaster) both use Packard built Merlins.

Factors like coolant formulation, Radiator performance, spark timing settings (how the engine is tuned by each manufacturer, inlet air temps (airframe may make a difference here), octane ratings, fuel additives would make a difference and could vary from user to user. Don;t know if any of that was factored in, just saying that engine "hardware" in not the only factor determining how hard you can push an engine. 

[Vinkman]

There's a misconception in it: Reducing the throttle has no influence on "cool down" times. It's not based on temperatures, it's a function only depending on a timer.

hmm. Are you sure? I thought, and seemed to experience that it is tied to the temprature model which had load as a factor. Perhaps even, alt (air temp variation).