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Offline Slade

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Re: C2's
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2013, 04:38:23 PM »
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There are just so many better options.

That is a reason to fly it.  I mean what do you need to get a kill?

Feels so much more rewarding getting a kill in a non-perky bird like a C205.  I know, that is just me.

C205 very capable plane.  :aok
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Re: C2's
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2013, 05:00:30 PM »
There are just so many better options.
Imagine every single one flying an La-7. Spit-16. 4-hog. Tempest. M-jug. K-4. Aint too nice, is it?

Wait... thats pretty much how the MA works...  :aok
And yea, it felt good to kill them in a lesser plane. Or at least whatch an La-7 run from a 190D.
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Re: C2's
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2013, 05:15:52 PM »
It has a nice set of attributes when fighting from above.  At least in my hands, it's a terrible stallfighter against anything that is even remotely turny.  Good for running down some planes, competent at middle speeds and climbs decently.  There are just so many better options.

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I had no problem flying the C.205 for quite a few tours - and even ranked #1 in fighters flying it, while it won't beat a corsair in a turn fight or a Zero - it does 400mph at 15k and out climbs most planes with a 10 minute wep and a very nasty gun package with a good view. If I wanted a better option I'd just fly the F4u-4 and not fly anything else.

Then again I flew it for the 25 eny which racks up a ton of perks if you need them.

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Re: C2's
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2013, 05:28:35 PM »
If you're carefull about energy, and don't make it a pure TnB fight, you can actually turn with quite a lot of aircraft. It can also do a climbing turn defense better than most I feel.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: C2's
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2013, 05:50:40 PM »
If you're carefull about energy, and don't make it a pure TnB fight, you can actually turn with quite a lot of aircraft. It can also do a climbing turn defense better than most I feel.
So if you dont turn it, it can turn  :aok
Jager, if you dont give up your energy, thats not a turnfight but an energy-fight. And yes, any aircraft is good if you come with E.

Its not a good turnfighter - a K4 can turn inside it. Wouldnt be that bad, but the flaps are ineffective. Still, baba's 4hog had to use his CV ack last time i upped a 205. True, it wasnt the plane, it was him being... not too tricky.
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Re: C2's
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2013, 07:02:36 PM »
So if you dont turn it, it can turn  :aok
Jager, if you dont give up your energy, thats not a turnfight but an energy-fight. And yes, any aircraft is good if you come with E.

Doh! I forgot you are completely incapable of simply not turning when you're either too slow or too fast. Stupid me  :bhead.

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Its not a good turnfighter - a K4 can turn inside it. Wouldnt be that bad, but the flaps are ineffective. Still, baba's 4hog had to use his CV ack last time i upped a 205. True, it wasnt the plane, it was him being... not too tricky.

Debrody, I think you're misunderstanding that "turning" isn't the same thing as "turn fighting". You can turn in a fight, and still not be TnB'ing.

All I'm saying is that its not suicidal to try and haul the nose around if you see a shot, and you don't need to climb back up to your perch if a 190D starts to bank to the left.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Offline Oldman731

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Re: C2's
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2013, 07:37:28 PM »
So if I'm understanding this discussion, when you folks see "C2" by the icon, you automatically assume it's a 205, and not a 202?

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Re: C2's
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2013, 08:07:33 PM »
So if I'm understanding this discussion, when you folks see "C2" by the icon, you automatically assume it's a 205, and not a 202?

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Re: C2's
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2013, 08:09:28 PM »
So if I'm understanding this discussion, when you folks see "C2" by the icon, you automatically assume it's a 205, and not a 202?

- oldman

C.202 is one of the rarest birds in the game. Its the only one I can't recall seeing at some point in the MA.
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Re: C2's
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2013, 11:18:03 PM »
Debrody, I think you're misunderstanding that "turning" isn't the same thing as "turn fighting". You can turn in a fight, and still not be TnB'ing.

All I'm saying is that its not suicidal to try and haul the nose around if you see a shot, and you don't need to climb back up to your perch if a 190D starts to bank to the left.
Its okay, but thats not a turnfight, ergo, actual turn rate means next to nothing in those situation, unless its extremely poor (410, 262).
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« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2013, 07:20:14 AM »
K4's are too mainstream.

G-14s for the win.
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Re: C2's
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2013, 03:50:59 PM »
Its okay, but thats not a turnfight, ergo, actual turn rate means next to nothing in those situation, unless its extremely poor (410, 262).

Unless it was changed, it wasn't THAT bad. It could turn with a P-51 for a little bit, last I flew it.
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« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2013, 03:56:01 PM »
Where did i say that it was 410 level?
It can completely dominate a P51/47/190/Jak9U in a stallfight, and not for a little bit.
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Re: C2's
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2013, 04:15:06 PM »
Where did i say that it was 410 level?
It can completely dominate a P51/47/190/Jak9U in a stallfight, and not for a little bit.

"It can outdo a P47 in a stallfight." :lol

Well, that's a glowing recommendation right there. ;)

I hope my earlier post wasn't seen as a condemnation of it, I was just giving my honest assessment of how it works for me.  I fly it too now and again, it's a fun plane to fight in.  I was just commenting that it's not the best at anything, nor is it the worst.

Love the long clip on the guns, that's for sure.  It's also faster than most give it credit for if they don't know any better.

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Re: C2's
« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2013, 04:20:05 PM »
Dont laugh on my P47 comment, thats a surprisingly nimble fighter. Great flaps, low stall speed, steady in the post-stall.
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