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Offline GScholz

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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2013, 08:15:01 PM »
And it was probably canned, not fresh or frozen.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2013, 08:57:12 PM »
I have no idea what species it was but it was universally hated, but eaten because it was at least protein, and available.

And it was probably canned, not fresh or frozen.
lol, i wonder if it was something like this...



good with biscuits?  :uhoh
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2013, 09:00:10 PM »
I only heard about whale "steaks" so not canned or dried, probably frozen?
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2013, 09:09:46 PM »
They didn't have the technology. Whaling ships back then boiled the meat on board and canned it.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #79 on: May 16, 2013, 09:11:16 PM »
See... Whaling saved Britain and won the war!  :D
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #80 on: May 16, 2013, 10:18:10 PM »
you have more choices than just cow...a lot more. and you didn't say how many starving children in your country are the recipients of the abundance of whale meat harvested annually...

Minke whales are not endangered in any way what so ever. Harvest rates are documented as well sustainable.

IIRC whale meat is nutritionally quite good. So why not eat them?

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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #81 on: May 16, 2013, 10:38:32 PM »
Minke whales are not endangered in any way what so ever. Harvest rates are documented as well sustainable.

IIRC whale meat is nutritionally quite good. So why not eat them?
i see you missed the point, many now endangered whales weren't endangered 150 years ago...not sure how anyone can say that a population is sustainable when they don't know the exact population numbers.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #82 on: May 16, 2013, 11:10:33 PM »
i see you missed the point, many now endangered whales weren't endangered 150 years ago...not sure how anyone can say that a population is sustainable when they don't know the exact population numbers.

Are minke's endangered?

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« Reply #83 on: May 16, 2013, 11:36:28 PM »
the claim is no they are not based on an estimated global population of 800,000...
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2013, 08:58:10 AM »
Gyrene, our fishery research department current have eight research vessels. Three of them are 4,000+ ton purpose built fish and whale surveillance vessels equipped with powerful underwater imaging sonars that can automatically count whole schools of fish, ROVs and other research gear. The International Whaling Commission have approved our methods of estimation with a 95% confidence level.


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« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2013, 09:19:58 AM »
no offense Scholz, but organizations like the IWC are made up of people who can and will say whatever the money tells them to (like many other international organizations). if pope francis, the dalai lama and gandhi were the only members of the organization, i could probably be convinced that the IWC was beyond the influences of corrupt corporations...maybe.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2013, 09:26:18 AM »
No offense Gyrene, but you sound like a conspiracy nut. The research is not done by any corporation, but by the Norwegian oceanic research department and the universities of Bergen and Tromsø.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2013, 09:28:33 AM »
   I think all that sonar emiting equipment is interfering with Whale mating rituals.  :old:

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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2013, 09:59:44 AM »
No offense Gyrene, but you sound like a conspiracy nut. The research is not done by any corporation, but by the Norwegian oceanic research department and the universities of Bergen and Tromsø.
come on man, do you really think that i couldn't take 2 or 3 million dollars and get whatever population numbers i want in writing as "official"? that's not conspiracy theory, it's a fact of human greed. there aren't very many people who wouldn't shag a camel on live webcam for a couple of million dollars.
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Re: Commercial whaling: For/Against/Indifferent?
« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2013, 10:50:52 AM »
come on man, do you really think that i couldn't take 2 or 3 million dollars and get whatever population numbers i want in writing as "official"? that's not conspiracy theory, it's a fact of human greed. there aren't very many people who wouldn't shag a camel on live webcam for a couple of million dollars.

I would do it for $20 USD if:

  • I was the pitcher and not the catcher
  • You paid me, up front
  • The camel was wearing lipstick
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