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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #135 on: June 17, 2013, 05:46:15 PM »
Katana was a fine weapon for killing someone wearing a pajama. Large broadswords usually met either proper armor or very thick clothing/furs and a bit more oomph was needed.
Not quite true.  The point on a katana is very well shaped for punching through armor.

You're also grossly underselling the Japanese armor.

While the katana was not the mythic cutting weapon it is often portrayed as it was far more effective than just against pajamas as you dismissively put it.
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #136 on: June 17, 2013, 06:18:59 PM »
Not quite true.  The point on a katana is very well shaped for punching through armor.

You're also grossly underselling the Japanese armor.

While the katana was not the mythic cutting weapon it is often portrayed as it was far more effective than just against pajamas as you dismissively put it.

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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #137 on: June 17, 2013, 06:28:20 PM »
Ink can't have guns, however when some random boy wants to date his daughter, he sharpens his katana instead works on all male genitalia.
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #138 on: June 17, 2013, 06:39:32 PM »
Ink can't have guns, however when some random boy wants to date his daughter, he sharpens his katana instead works on all male genitalia.

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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #139 on: June 21, 2013, 06:49:11 PM »
Yeah, some people seems to think a knight was carrying around hundreds of pounds of gear and armor, and if he fell he needed a bunch of guys to help him get back up.  :lol

Last time I was in a combat area I was carrying hundreds of pounds of gear and armour and needed a bunch of guys to help me up if I fell.

In actual fact probably around 100lbs of kit, rifle, helmet, body armour and boots. Spare link for the LMG, spare mortar rounds,occasionally link for the GPMG, radio, spare batteries, NVG's, grenades, smoke, water, scran. In actual fact, it was worked out that soldiers carry pretty much the same weight now as the Roman army did, verything has been made lighter and more compact but you end up carrying more crap as a result.
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2013, 05:39:03 PM »
Sure. Our winter backpack alone weighed 70+ pounds. However we didn't fight with all that gear on; we dump it asap and fought with only our combat gear which was perhaps 20 pounds total. Nowadays they have body armor in addition, so it's prolly 30+ pounds total combat gear.
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #141 on: June 22, 2013, 06:22:08 PM »
 inmiddle school I had to carry 7 tect books, library books and other stuff. Total wieght 55 pounds. I guess their secretly prepping us for combat
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #142 on: June 22, 2013, 08:41:47 PM »
Sure. Our winter backpack alone weighed 70+ pounds. However we didn't fight with all that gear on; we dump it asap and fought with only our combat gear which was perhaps 20 pounds total. Nowadays they have body armor in addition, so it's prolly 30+ pounds total combat gear.

Try closer to 50. The full IOTV with side SAPIs is crazy heavy.

When I was a young 11B in 1/325 AIR, as a team leader my ruck was just a hair over 80 (CLS Bag and Breach Kit). This was the with three days of stuff, and blank, not live ammo. Then kick in the LBE with another 15 lbs or so, your rifle, right at 10, MILES, and a chute, I easily had more on me than I weighed when jumping.  

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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #143 on: June 23, 2013, 12:39:06 AM »
Well... Over here we don't believe in the Robocop approach. In urban Iraq that may work, but in the Norwegian countryside, especially in wintertime, we need mobility more than armor.

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When I was in the army back in the early '90s we looked more like this:

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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #144 on: June 23, 2013, 04:46:50 AM »
Dont believe in the Robocop approach? Not sure what this means. The British Army apparently believe in the 'have enough kit to get the job done approach".
Of course we would dump the bergan in a contact but even CEFO meant carrying a serious amount of weight. I would rather be knackered and have enough ammo and water. :old:
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #145 on: June 23, 2013, 10:01:12 AM »
Robocop= heavy armor but slow.

As you can see from the pictures we don't need to carry a lot of water; it's literally everywhere. ;)
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #146 on: June 23, 2013, 10:38:32 AM »
Robocop= heavy armor but slow.

As you can see from the pictures we don't need to carry a lot of water; it's literally everywhere. ;)
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Maybe so but I was referring to my experience. Maybe if Norwegian forces carried more ammunition and ordnance they wouldnt have been over run in a week
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #147 on: June 23, 2013, 10:42:51 AM »
When were Norwegian forces overrun in a week?
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #148 on: June 23, 2013, 11:45:57 AM »
Probably within a week of 9th of May 1940. Just hazarding a guess
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Re: Ki-84's Most Absurd Feature
« Reply #149 on: June 23, 2013, 11:53:48 AM »
Heh, guess you need to read up on history. ;)  Of all the countries the Nazis occupied Norway held out the longest, 2 months. And in 1940, the only thing that saved Britain from falling to the Wehrmacht just like the rest of Europe was a thin stretch of water.
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