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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2013, 08:07:30 AM »
The Fury, guys, take this to the wishlist forum; despairing about it here isn't gonna make anything good come of it.

My idea about centralizing the situation into 2 arenas (1 MA and 1 TA [free]) and the rest into instanced custom is the kind of thing we need to be talking about. Post your own take on the situation if you so please.

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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2013, 08:57:09 AM »
I have two thoughts. One, over my three years I've heard/read many players leave due to finances. It is less about $14.95/mo, more about time. Second, AH may want to bring in a professional marketing team. I know eMBA programs take real world businesses and perform complete analysis for them for free. Hitech should consider reaching Rich, UofTexas, etcs MBA program and request being part of the program. Very valuable feedback for free.

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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2013, 09:08:20 AM »
Didn't HTC state that they want AH to be a game with a small player base? Because honestly...if they ever wanted a surge of new players, put an ad or interview on simhq.com or some sort of gaming news website. I honestly have never seen a single ad on the web for AH, besides the TV commercials people put on YouTube.

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2013, 09:17:12 AM »
Didn't HTC state that they want AH to be a game with a small player base? Because honestly...if they ever wanted a surge of new players, put an ad or interview on simhq.com or some sort of gaming news website. I honestly have never seen a single ad on the web for AH, besides the TV commercials people put on YouTube.

No they did not.

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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2013, 09:19:25 AM »
It appears that AH2 is going the same way that FA did, and I see the primary cause being there are too many opinions voiced by non-playing people being listened to by someone at HTC, the second reason being that too many people refuse to update/upgrade their computers and OS's. While it is nice to have a game that can be played by those who don't have newer computers, that same agenda is causing newer players not to stay in the game long enough to find out how much fun it is. Add in players who bash newcomers horribly, causing them to not proceed past the first few days, and you get a path straight to oblivion. As an example, we in the 133rd had decided to take in a couple of fresh faces to try to make the game enjoyable for them, and to encourage them to continue in the game as paying customers. The third day of his trial, we were in the DA, several of us and a new player. We were on country channel, and a certain player who will go unnamed,(his nick is the same as a smoking implement) trashed this new player, badly and with many obscenities. The new player logged and never came back. Aces High is a fantastic game, populated by outstanding(credits to Zack1234), for the most part people from all over the world, but if something isn't done, I see the game following Fighter Ace into history sooner than later.
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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2013, 09:23:19 AM »
I see the primary cause being there are too many opinions voiced by non-playing people being listened to by someone at HTC,


You can give a couple of examples?
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2013, 09:24:22 AM »
Didn't HTC state that they want AH to be a game with a small player base?

No.

They want to stay a small company, not having a small player base.  ;)
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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2013, 09:42:26 AM »
Interesting graph however I think it reflects the drop in player numbers over kill stats by type

Three main reasons imho

1. Graphics are killing the game they are now very dated especially terrain,light,shadows and effects.
2. Price now is expensive for a online game needs to be $9.95 or lower (especially considering reason 1).
3. Pace of development has been slow to non existent since AH2 released. And AH2 basically has the same look,feel and gameplay as AH1


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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2013, 10:06:00 AM »
AH has ZERO publicity. In my country I have never met in-person someone who has heard about this game and not from me.

I know zero about marketing, but I don't think that word-of-mouth is going to bring a lot of new players. AH needs some exposure in gaming websites. On many of the major ones AH is impossible to find even if you are looking at their combat sim category looking for such games. If you intentionally search for it on gaming websites, you find a page with minimum details, no reviews and a feeling of some game well past its time. Nobody will be tempted to download the free trial this way.

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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2013, 10:10:31 AM »
The numbers are not the problem. Imbalance is. Whenever any country has a lot more players than another, seal clubbing happens. Especially when bish are typically the largest country and they start hording. Whenever I end up having to fight 20:1 hordes I just quit in disgust and do something else instead. It's just not fun.
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« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2013, 10:22:36 AM »

You can give a couple of examples?
Lusche, for the sake of getting along, I'd rather not. What I will say is that, in game, I have found out that some people that I have had different opinions than, in the forum, don't play any more, and haven't.
I enjoy this game immensely, and I feel it's more productive to not say, than to get more stuff started. My opinion about how much influence they have may be wrong, it could be that it's just fighting for status quo.
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« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2013, 10:42:16 AM »
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and I see the primary cause being there are too many opinions voiced by non-playing people being listened to by someone at HTC,

You do realize this comment pretty much verges on insanity? Most of all by those who have been in the game thru its height and decline.
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Re: Snailman's scary graph
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2013, 10:42:48 AM »
I love flying these airplanes, but spending more time looking for action than actually being in the action is slowly driving me away from the game...

Also doing exactly the same things in th MA for 10years may be playing a part. Games need to renew themselves to keep being interresting...

Sorry for puting your graph out of his context snailman...I love graphs <3

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« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2013, 11:18:17 AM »
I love flying these airplanes, but spending more time looking for action than actually being in the action is slowly driving me away from the game...

I know how you feel  :uhoh

Also doing exactly the same things in the MA for 10years may be playing a part. Games need to renew themselves to keep being interresting...

This is a form of self-awareness far too few players have. At some point even great things will start to look boring if you done them for too long. Unfortunately many people often totally ignore that and blame anything and anyone else for the declined enjoyment instead of asking themself "Maybe I have changed as well?"

(Usually at this point I tell the anecdote of that player who was racking up 100 kills in a Tiger while spawncamping with me in 2005, and constantly complaining about all that "gamey players today" in 2008)


Sorry for puting your graph out of his context snailman...I love graphs <3

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