side-switching abuse

[Tinkles]

Havermyr, I have a great deal of respect for your ability with bombers. You are deadly in the guns. And you always fly alone. No escort or other bombers nearby. I would like to learn how to gun like you do.

Perhaps you don't understand the irony that we see if your complaint. The Bish win maps, what, 80% of the time? Using Horde behavior that we absolutely hate. How many Bish have hundreds of perk points from map wins and far fewer from kills? And the other Bish behavior that you don't see. A set of lancs flys to the strats. I intercept after a long climb. Just as I get within about 3k, he bails. Never saw a Knight do that or heard of one doing that. Saw a Rook do that once. My thought at the time was.. gee must have been a Bish before he became a Rook. Shooting your buddy on another side for perk points: usually a Bish. So in my one year of experience in this game, unethical behavior = Bish.

Tex78

If you want to get extremely technical, all players have been bishop. That is the default side that you 'spawn in as' when you first make your account.

Furthermore, saying that ONLY bishops use "unethical behavior".. well, you just made yourself look like a fool saying that.

I have seen ALL sides horde at one point or another, I have seen all do a lot of things.. here is a list.

Horde
Become Astronauts
HO
Run
Slander and insult via 200 or PM
bomb****   (Apologize for the expletive)     My, it actually blocked it.. Um..   B O M B T A R D << there 
Camp
Run-to-ack

List goes on and on..

But again, to say that only one side does it, that is ignorance there.

We all have done the above all some point or another, and if you by some miracle or reason have not.  Then we shall throw a private party in your honor, pat yourself on the back.  But if you are like all the other players and have, then you can't cast the first stone. So have fun waiting in line.

<<S>>

Tinkles

 

[zack1234]

That hording scene

Its fun trying to stop it

Especially when you shoot Joker down

[kvuo75]

I gave away all the CV positions on Mesa View earlier.


 


zack is Bernie ecclestone

[Bruv119]

I gave away all the CV positions on Mesa View earlier.


 


zack is Bernie ecclestone

if he is can he lend me a tenner?   

[Scca]

If you want to get extremely technical, all players have been bishop. That is the default side that you 'spawn in as' when you first make your account.

Furthermore, saying that ONLY bishops use "unethical behavior".. well, you just made yourself look like a fool saying that.

I have seen ALL sides horde at one point or another, I have seen all do a lot of things.. here is a list.

Horde
Become Astronauts
HO
Run
Slander and insult via 200 or PM
bomb****   (Apologize for the expletive)     My, it actually blocked it.. Um..   B O M B T A R D << there 
Camp
Run-to-ack

List goes on and on..

But again, to say that only one side does it, that is ignorance there.

We all have done the above all some point or another, and if you by some miracle or reason have not.  Then we shall throw a private party in your honor, pat yourself on the back.  But if you are like all the other players and have, then you can't cast the first stone. So have fun waiting in line.

<<S>>

Tinkles

 

I agree with everything but the comment on "default" side. My first country was nit.

The AK's rotate every month and ALL sides complain about the same thing about the other sides.

Guess what, all 3 countries are the same.  Really...

[icepac]

My first country was knight.

[Megalodon]

I was on at the time as described above and was one that was sending messages to the low life. Amazingly he has a ranking right at the top. If he so blatantly “gamed the system” in this fashion, makes one wonder about his ranking, hmmm.

Lusche is right about the strat retreat concept, but that is not the only problem here. How about those that jump just to spy and create havoc, dropping smoke on friendlies, or locate CV task groups, etc.

So from my $15 perspective, here are some recommendations for HTC to help alleviate this blatant “gaming of the system” problem:
1.   Can only change countries once per week.
2.   Loses 50% of all existing perk points. Regained 100% if stays a month.
3.   Earns only 50% value in perk points during week, Gains 100% if stays a month.
4.   The individual is subject to fragging for first 48 hours.
5.   The individuals vehicle and plane skins adorned in bright pink, with clown face. Icon in bright pink. (Applies to first week).
6.   Once each hour, in color specific text, announcement of all individuals who have jumped in the previous 24 hours.
7.   Possible test option to try, choice of changing for a month at jump time, none of the above apply.
8.   Also, kiddies on the “2 week free play” should be subject to fragging.
9.     No Xcountry Comms for the 1st week.

Option 4 above would be a quick and simple defensive tool. And how could anyone that plays the game straight up, not want loop holes closed? For those that want to “game the system”, who really cares what they think.

Ok, camp fire is lit, lawn chairs out, and weenies over the fire, beer in the cooler.

    Got any Margaritas in there, mind if I bring some steaks and fresh corn? 

Best post yet on the sideswitchin griefers. I added 1 

+100

[titanic3]

I change sides almost everyday  . Believe it or not, some people actually want to dogfight. 

[ink]

I change sides almost everyday  . Believe it or not, some people actually want to dogfight. 

ditto


those that don't like switching sides...don't have to.....


I find most of the guys who don't like the side switching are not fighters, they are loyal to 1 chess piece and fly in the gang.

most of the real fighters don't care about the chess piece and only want a good fight.....




what I find funny is the ones that call themselves "fighters" but hide in the gang...call shade whines and cheat whines regularly....they don't like cross coms and want it so guys in the same squad cant talk to each other if they are on different countries...... I realize now its because they run their mouths and don't like it when they have to back it up.

[Zacherof]

Ink is a spy
And a no good, rotten warmonger

wait that's what an AH bad arse is


I to have realized the enjoyment of switching sides for kills. But that blasted 12 rule can just shrivel up and whither away

[ink]

Ink is a spy
And a no good, rotten warmonger

wait that's what an AH bad arse is


I to have realized the enjoyment of switching sides for kills. But that blasted 12 rule can just shrivel up and whither away

 

[bustr]

With the prevalence of cross country comm and external VOX programs. Hitech should just turn the MA into one giant King of the Hill frag fest.

But, leave every one alone to create any mutual support agreements of the moment or persistent over time they choose. Like roving gangs of lawyers, thugs, bikers, and gang bangers. Then INK can just log in and frag everyone starting in the tower and on out into the single giant country with no discrimination for, or hindrance by, others equally valid approaches to survival in a frag fest. I suspect under that kind of extreme order less chaotic system, the weaker individual would become fodder to the stronger mutually supportive gangs out to consume the weaker individuals before having to engage larger gangs.

At least then the construct of groups would have a practical meaning to survival in the MA.

For those who want more realism in the MA, this would be as real as it gets. To win a map you first have to inspire the largest number of individual players to follow your command as an ongoing adjunct to fighting off attacks and winning territory. Think of the love fest here in the forum with posts about traitors, back shooting, spying, too powerful gangs that always win the map. The only loyalty would either be to a leader, or to the urge to frag people in the back. Not to some useless chess piece country.

[ink]

With the prevalence of cross country comm and external VOX programs. Hitech should just turn the MA into one giant King of the Hill frag fest.

But, leave every one alone to create any mutual support agreements of the moment or persistent over time they choose. Like roving gangs of lawyers, thugs, bikers, and gang bangers. Then INK can just log in and frag everyone starting in the tower and on out into the single giant country with no discrimination for, or hindrance by, others equally valid approaches to survival in a frag fest. I suspect under that kind of extreme order less chaotic system, the weaker individual would become fodder to the stronger mutually supportive gangs out to consume the weaker individuals before having to engage larger gangs.

At least then the construct of groups would have a practical meaning to survival in the MA.

For those who want more realism in the MA, this would be as real as it gets. To win a map you first have to inspire the largest number of individual players to follow your command as an ongoing adjunct to fighting off attacks and winning territory. Think of the love fest here in the forum with posts about traitors, back shooting, spying, too powerful gangs that always win the map. The only loyalty would either be to a leader, or to the urge to frag people in the back. Not to some useless chess piece country.

 


the MA has nothing to do with the real war......the "war" that takes place in the MA is and was implemented to promote COMBAT........the war being secondary, Combat being Primary.

this is fact........... no matter what anyone says or how hard they try to make the MA like WW2 online.

seeings how HTC himself said almost the exact same thing.....

the only thing you have ever seen me complain about is individuals that avoid combat....

and the 12 hr rule.....I hate that rule.



people complaining about those that switch sides are forgetting this is a game about Combat.

[Wiley]

While I agree gameplay as described by the OP is wrong, and that's an issue with the factory retreat system, the attitude shown in Hondo's post is one I really disagree with.

I don't like spying, I think it sucks.  Y'know what sucks more?  Logging in to find either no air fights at all on either front or a green horde rolling bases with no resistance.  Y'know what else sucks?  Switching sides to find a fight because there are no fights on your current country's fronts, only to find you've guessed wrong on who was outnumbered and you're now stuck with a green horde being the only option available other than the occasional red onesy-twosy bardar.  For the next 12 hours.

Other than the obvious issue with the OP, what are all the things a spy can accomplish?

Your carrier gets hit.  Perhaps defense might be a good idea.

Your mission meets resistance.  Does your entire gameplan hinge on complete lack of defense?  Do I really need to point out the flaw there?

Seriously, is there anything else they can do?

Seems to me a pretty small issue compared to people logging in, finding a complete lack of gameplay on their side, and logging out.

Wiley.

[Zacherof]

If your bored take up a set of bostons and bomb a town, land get 10 perks repeat

Bostons are also rather fast  


Or go around and dogfight spits in a tbm, or c202