WTF?!!! What this crazy Russian doing?

[PanosGR]

You got to see to believe it. Su-35S Le Bourget 2013. That’s all im gona say.

Just watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMs_u7ARVxs&feature=player_embedded#!

[Rich46yo]

Looks ike he's trying to avoid the 4 IB AMRAMM's shot from the fighter he hasnt even detected yet.

[ozrocker]

Wow, that thing is bad



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[Sombra]

Puzzled by the lack of canards I reviewed wiki:

Indeed, technological advancements have resulted in lighter and smaller hardware, particularly the radar, shifting the centre of gravity to the rear of the aircraft. This allowed for the elimination of the canards and the abandonment of the "tandem triplane" design found on many derivatives of the Su-27.[28][30] Also omitted was the Su-27's dorsal airbrake, the functions of which were replaced by differentially deflecting the vertical stabilizers.

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 [AL-41FA] has a service life of 4,000 hours, compared to the AL-31F's 1,500, and to compensate for the loss of canards, has fully rotating thrust-vectoring capability. The Su-35S is the first non-US aircraft to have substantial supercruise ability (sustained cruising at supersonic speed without the use of afterburners), which gives it a crucial energy advantage against non-supercruising opponents.

Cool. Thank you.

[eagl]

Note that it still has to drop the nose to accelerate out of the slow maneuvers, stalls, and spins.  The F-22 demo pilot just keeps the nose up and powers up out of the maneuver, including the spin and tailslide.  F-22 still beats Flanker, even this version.

[Russian]

Note that it still has to drop the nose to accelerate out of the slow maneuvers, stalls, and spins.  The F-22 demo pilot just keeps the nose up and powers up out of the maneuver, including the spin and tailslide.  F-22 still beats Flanker, even this version.

LOL

[whiteman]

still pretty badass

[BaDkaRmA158Th]

Aim-9X

Sorry your maneuvering has been a very high moot point for a while now. The slow and tight turning air craft means nothing. And this is a "old" weapon system fully implemented into every aircraft in our fleet, and our allies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YMSfg26YSQ

:edit: Please note this video is already 13 years old.

For the bomb boys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j09uoOvi1tk



Now if the Russians started operating at 80,000k with "aircraft" that can move at speeds faster then mach 5, are equipped with rail guns & laser weapon systems, like we have. Then i would be shocked to know they caught up to us in 23 years.  


At any rate, i enjoyed the comments posted already.

[Rich46yo]

That is would lose to the F22 isnt even a question. the real question is what would happen against the F-35. And that answer is the SU-35 would  lose. The Fanker has a huge RSC compared to the F-35, which also has superior avionics. The Flanker would have its hands full with F-18s and the like, those that have our latest radars and weapons.

We could have made an airplane like the Flanker but other for air shows "whats the point"? http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2011/08/su-35s-inferior-to-usaf-jets-s.html

[Plawranc]

Hubris is unwise.

[Zacherof]

Didn't you guys know most Merican pilots are nought but a bunch of running cowards 

On a second not, Hase thief been any mock dogfights us. V russias su-35/37????

[cpxxx]

Video removed.   But there are others there on youtube. Leaving aside the US v Russia, Su35 v F22 issue, you have to admire the display purely for what it is. A remarkable display of the flying qualities of modern fighter aircraft. It is an airshow after, with the emphasis on show.

The reality is that the manoeuvrability demonstrated there will probably never be tested in combat.

I think the layman's perception of air combat are still rooted in WW2 or Korea or even Vietnam.  The modern reality is quite different even though the art of the dogfight is still practised.

I'm sure eagl if he wanted to could disillusion us still further with a description of the reality.

Edit: Ah I see eagl has done just that on the F22 v Rafale thread.

[eagl]

Don't get me wrong, the SU-35 is a pretty plane and it does fly really well.  If it was what I was offered, I'd gladly take it.  But given the choice, I'd still prefer even an F-15 and simply decline to take my opponent to the merge.  It's very difficult to BFM an amraam and virtually impossible to defeat two.  So whatever system lets me maximize the performance of that missile is the one I want to fly.

None of that mentions other known factors, such as the robust systems in the F-15 that have allowed them to take serious combat damage and still fly home.  Know many other modern fighters that can take an entire line of geese (about 14) down one motor, 2 geese down the other, spend 20 minutes on RTB with a major engine fire, and still land safely?

[GScholz]

Russians are looking into high energy laser active missile defense systems for their aircraft and vehicles.

[eagl]

Russians are looking into high energy laser active missile defense systems for their aircraft and vehicles.

Everyone is.  Energy density, power generation, and recharge times are a problem.  So is getting enough energy output through a small aperature and aimed in the right directly.  Done elegantly, you don't need a ton of output power but then detection, correlation, response selection, and aiming become the issue and that is also not easy even for large systems in large aircraft.  And, you need to know what you are countering.  Is the plan to defeat an EO/IR seeker?  Burn out a radar seeker?  Heat it enough to defeat the warhead or fuze?  Or heat it enough to cause a kinetic kill via structural failure of the missile itself?

There are already active countermeasures out there, but I'm not sure any of them would be considered high energy and I think they're intended to defeat EO/IR guidance.  That doesn't do anything for a ground vehicle being attacked by a dumb RPG.