We Voted For the Me 410 Instead...

[Arlo]

Biggest difference would likely be in handling, rather than  some significantly different capabilities.

Handling is a significantly different capability. I would prefer Italy get a plane or two first.
Preferably a bomber being one.

And the Russian plane set deserves the TU-2, imo.

But .... another plus for the Yak is the airframe would require little effort with a Yak-3 variant added.

[Tank-Ace]

If it comes down to a choice BETWEEN the Yak 3, or a Yak 7, or a 9K, HTC would have to be brain dead to add the Yak 3.

Imo, the IAR 80 should come first as well, simply because it's an entirely new airframe, which served as Romania primary fighter for around 4 years, IIRC.

[Zacherof]

Germany needs the 217 and/or 177, 190A3/190G

russia needs il4, tu2

Italy needs the 2005, and bomber

America needs the Sb2, a26, pbm, b17E, b24D/pb4, pby

britian needs wellingon, short stirling, and beaufighter

japan ki100, D4,B6, emily, a6m float fighter, ki45

[Rich46yo]

Can you remember the last time you saw a 410 in the game? Cause I cant. Nor did I vote for it.

We all expected a German super-plane, then again so did the Luftwaffe. They never got it and neither did we. The 410 is a mule with wings on it.

Soviet aviation continues to be 'dissed in AH. Dang shame when you think about it. 2013 and still no Red Star bomber nor a Yak-3.

[Lusche]

We all expected a German super-plane,

We did? 

[Tilt]

IMO it is (if anything) the Yak 9U that is superfluous to requirements.

Whilst it was introduced to front line in September 1944 it was then quickly reduced in strength and implementation delayed due to persistent problems with he VK107 engine.  As such its roll out during the GPW was heavily restricted although there is some evidence that it was used in Manchuria in August 45.

Hence with respect to events (scenarios) it is the Yak3 which is the iconic Yak aircraft of 1944. It was at multiple squadron strength by June 44 and played a key roll in Operation Bagration (still the largest battle in human history) flown by the Normandie Neimen as well as other air regiments within 303 IAD. It effectively rolled out to combat  strength over a month before the La7 (2 cannon version)

The Yak9T, 9M and 9U carry virtually the same air frame (although the U has many refinements of the Yak3). The flight AH model already exists for the 9T & 9U. The 9M is basically a 20mm (instead of 37mm) equipped 9T it saw service in 1944. Our 9T is a late 43-44 version with the continuously rated VK105PF.

The 9M therefore is a very good stand in for the Yak9D used at Kursk.

AH could therefore introduce a generic Yak 9 with 20 and 37mm load outs with the long nose of the Yak 9T. Indeed it could also include the load out option of the extra wing tanks to emulate the Yak9DD (some of which used the Yak9T frame) For scenario use this would take thru Kursk to Bagration and even to the Oder Vistula campaign.

The Yak3 would stand alone with the VK105PF2 engine a Yak1b fuselage but slightly shorter wings and a clear bubble front canopy. For scenario use this would take us  thru Bagration the Oder Vistula campaign to Berlin. As well as being IMO the Yak of choice in the MA.

For scenario use the Yak1b with VK105PF engine and Yak9T canopy would take us thru Stalingrad, Sebastipol 2,  Kursk, Bagration.

From this there are 3 core variants in my wish list. Yak1b, Yak 9T/M/DD, Yak3. To best serve both scenario and MA usage.

Yak9U is a cheap addition. Its a Yak 9M with the already modelled VK107. Scenario wise it has a small role in the Oder Vistula campaign and Berlin.

To encompass the full GPW then a Yak1 would serve to bring the Yak range  to offer the iconic VVS fighters from Barbarossa thru to Berlin much as the Spitfire series does for the RAF and the 109 series does for the LW.

Hence on reflection the only Yak     I would be routinely interested in for the MA is the Yak3.

For events and the occasional fun ride my minimum Yak series wish would be

Yak1
Yak1b
Yak9 (long nosed generic)
Yak3

[Zacherof]

I see 410s more often than 262 
and I knew the aircaft would be pooish

[Tupac]

you should fly ingame with me
I'll show you the path of the underdogs

I flew (and when I can rarely play) still fly the Mossie almost exclusively. I love it - but I don't want more hangar queens.

[Lusche]

and I knew the aircaft would be pooish

Oh, if you fly it with brains & discipline, the plane is fine...

/bragging mode ON

vs bomber 143-6
vs fighter 25-6
vs GV 2-0

Those MK-103 are about the most devastating gun package against bombers there is 


/mode OFF


 

[Zacherof]

For the most part I actually like the 110 better. But I I'm hunting bomber with the 50mm, then the 410'is awesome, especially if flown right. Or smart as I've killed many ponies who thought it would be smart to take a rope , ho, want to turn fight(pull an
 immelmen) and voilą! But it isn't a 190 by any means

btw you get my last pm?

[Karnak]

The Me410 is pretty much exactly what I thought it would be and I voted for it.

[Lusche]

btw you get my last pm?

Yes. Still busy migrating all the data to the new system

[caldera]

Oh, if you fly it with brains & discipline, the plane is fine...

/bragging mode ON

vs bomber 143-6
vs fighter 25-6
vs GV 2-0

Those MK-103 are about the most devastating gun package against bombers there is 


/mode OFF


 

Impressive results against fighters, sir.  The blanket with sleeves didn't fare nearly as well:

vs fighters: 29 kills/32 deaths 

vs bombers: 70 kills/8 deaths

vs cockaroaches: 5 kills/0 deaths


Were any of your fighter kills from the tailguns?  I've been diced a few times by them.  Unless you are in a faster plane,  getting behind a 410 can be hazardous to your health. 

[Zacherof]

Yes. Still busy migrating all the data to the new system

Roger that then. 

[Lusche]

Were any of your fighter kills from the tailguns?

I think I may had a single kill that way.
They sure do pack some bigger punch than the usual rifle caliber rear guns. In my opinion, a 410 pilot could really benefit from carrying along another player as gunner, even when only attacking bombers. Of course, the pilot jumping to the rear to gun himself is still an act of desperation...

vs fighters: 29 kills/32 deaths 

That's still very much above average. Very much.
Keep in mind my own record vs fighters is the result of... hum... carefully choosing time and place of any engagement