Author Topic: A Simpler Time  (Read 8783 times)

Offline Wiley

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2013, 10:31:20 AM »
...Wait...  I'm confused now.

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DA. Give me a 410/190/110. You try to evade it. Bet you you can't.

Followed by multiple offers to take you up on it.  I'm just another dweeb and I could probably take you up on that offer and beat it.  Enough people who are far better than me were willing to prove you wrong I never bothered, plus I don't chest thump as a rule.

Then suddenly it becomes:

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Yea, if you're already making maneuvers to avoid at 2K away, then it's not hard. But in a multi con engagement where you only have a short distance to react (400-600), then I would love to see someone avoid a HO like that.

And followed by...

:rolleyes:

So if it's a 1v1 and you get HOed, your SA is overwhelmed?

Your 1v1's start 400-600 out?  Ok, I'll grant you the point.  If 2 planes start rolling on the runway from opposite ends 400-600 yards apart and one of them is intent on hoing, it is going to be difficult to avoid the HO in that scenario.

I am pretty sure what the response will be, but it's really ok to admit you're wrong or that you were exaggerating on a forum.  Nothing bad will happen to you.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2013, 10:33:36 AM »
You say you're willing to test it out. So far, not a single person have tried to, either through PMs or in here. Guess lots of you are just talk huh?

  the game is concentrated on combat, not on shaking the screen.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2013, 10:36:08 AM »
You say you're willing to test it out. So far, not a single person have tried to, either through PMs or in here. Guess lots of you are just talk huh?
don't change the subject...  :D

i'll jump on and test it with you...i have to avoid goofy bish hotards all the time. it can be 50/50, depends on whether or not i decide to ram the dipstick...
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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2013, 10:45:14 AM »
don't change the subject...  :D

i'll jump on and test it with you...i have to avoid goofy bish hotards all the time. it can be 50/50, depends on whether or not i decide to ram the dipstick...

Sure, I'm in right now in the MA, titanMd.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #49 on: July 11, 2013, 10:48:12 AM »
You say you're willing to test it out. So far, not a single person have tried to, either through PMs or in here. Guess lots of you are just talk huh?

If nobody's taken you up on it by the next time I'm on, I will happily champion the side of those who don't see HO's as that big a deal.

For efficiency's sake, I'd suggest just upping 25%, merge, you take your shot, and we just blow through, reversing at 3k, repeat as necessary.  Sound reasonable?

Wife's got plans, but I'm hoping to be on around or shortly after 10 EST tonight.

Wiley.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2013, 10:56:23 AM by Wiley »
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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2013, 10:52:32 AM »
Sure, I'm in right now in the MA, titanMd.
i'm one of those slovenly people that has to work for a living...it'll be another 6 hours or so before i can get home to join the fun.
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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2013, 11:01:57 AM »
Yea, if you're already making maneuvers to avoid at 2K away, then it's not hard. But in a multi con engagement where you only have a short distance to react (400-600), then I would love to see someone avoid a HO like that.

Why would I want to avoid a HO in a multi-con engagement like that?  The guy just gave me one of the easiest shots possible.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2013, 11:15:58 AM »
Why would I want to avoid a HO in a multi-con engagement like that?  The guy just gave me one of the easiest shots possible.

Remember torq and Nash in the C-Hawg?  HO specialist they were. 
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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2013, 11:17:50 AM »
Since my return back to the game last month, I swore off flying a 51 altogether and my K/D and fighter rank has never been higher in my 6 or 7 years of playing. Granted a lot of this due to my squad mates, but flying a jug forces you to fight your way home more often. I would fly the pony and get a few kills and rtb. Now with the jugs, I'm forced to fight more and I'm heading home 5,6 or 8 kills at a time  These are the only reasons I can come up with for my improved stats.

Although the 51 will always be my favorite plane of the war, I'm glad I got serious about parking it. I interested to see if I can keep my lucky streak going in these 47s.

Jack,

Not sure why, but glad you are :aok

I think it's the P-47 bringing out the potential in you, and yea, it definitely helps having a good wingman.
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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2013, 11:33:05 AM »
Still waiting boyo. Any time you wanna prove your intelligence, lemme know.

My intelligence or my ability? Several players have told you how mistaken you are. You then went and described 'head-ons' erroneously. You then, ironically and without intent, admitted how overrated you are. I reckon it's not my intelligence that's in question, at this point (by anyone other than you and, regrettably, you tipped off your lack of qualification). That doesn't mean you can't amuse and it certainly doesn't mean your worth any kind of effort. I went to the DA twice last night. I'll be there again. When and if you're there, impress us with your knack for HOing.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2013, 11:35:57 AM »
My intelligence or my ability? Several players have told you how mistaken you are. You then went and described 'head-ons' erroneously. You then, ironically and without intent, admitted how overrated you are. I reckon it's not my intelligence that's in question, at this point (by anyone other than you and, regrettably, you tipped off your lack of qualification). That doesn't mean you can't amuse and it certainly doesn't mean your worth any kind of effort. I went to the DA twice last night. I'll be there again. When and if you're there, impress us with your knack for HOing.

 :aok :) ;)

You still think I have a "knack for HOing". Reading comprehension wasn't taught to you or something?

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #56 on: July 11, 2013, 11:41:40 AM »
Remember torq and Nash in the C-Hawg?  HO specialist they were. 

Torque I remember for sure.  Nash I recall being more of a N1K guy, but I could be wrong.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2013, 11:47:05 AM »
You still think I have a "knack for HOing". Reading comprehension wasn't taught to you or something?

DA. Give me a 410/190/110. You try to evade it. Bet you you can't.

Seems pretty clear what you're saying.

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #58 on: July 11, 2013, 11:52:41 AM »
You say you're willing to test it out. So far, not a single person have tried to, either through PMs or in here. Guess lots of you are just talk huh?

We've all tested this out thoroughly, already. This isn't a 'test' to us. Now if it's a matter of you trying to prove the only pilot in AH that we can't avoid in a HO is you then it's a case of you only begging us for a chance to impress us. But when you admitted that in the true circumstance of a head-on attack (and let me explain what that is, since you don't seem to realize):

A head-on attack is when, at the time of visual con, you turn toward the enemy with the intent to fire at them and they do likewise. Nobody changes their mind. And while you can do this when there's more than one enemy and you can do this with a group of friendlies with similar intent ... you cannot do this flying into an active furball. The enemy is already engaged, at that point. You're not HOing anyone then. All you're doing is flying through and managing to hit someone in the front instead of anywhere else.

.... ok, when you admitted that in the true circumstance of a head-on attack someone can easily avoid you, of all people, you blew your reason for hating/fearing HOs all to Hades. And you certainly didn't make yourself into the stuff of legend here.

Are you sure you want to make this about comparative intelligence rather than your ignorance of the subject matter (backed up by your theoretical superiority at the game)?  :aok

*Take this opportunity to grow. We'll all respect you for it .... in the morning.  :)

And organize your glove-slapping better. If you can manage that then I'm sure you'll get all kinds of dance partners to impress both on the forums and in the DA.  :salute

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Re: A Simpler Time
« Reply #59 on: July 11, 2013, 11:54:21 AM »
You still think I have a "knack for HOing". Reading comprehension wasn't taught to you or something?

Mine's fine. You apparently don't proof-check well.  :D