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Offline Karnak

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2013, 10:40:50 AM »
I do like the idea of the Me323 being added and able to create a small forward vehicle hangar capable of spawning the halftracks, jeep and M8.  Marder I should be added at the same time which would also go on the list.  Could the Me323 manage a SdKfz 234 Puma?  It looks like it is right on the cargo weight limit and I am not sure about the size.

According to wikipedia the engines were counter rotating as well so, for what its worth, it wouldn't have torque issues.

Overall a very neat plane and very useful if used in places where enemy fighters were not present.


RngFndr,

Panzer III looks like it is about twice the doable weight for the Me323.  Still, the Marder I has a useful gun.
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2013, 10:45:31 AM »
My memory is tellin me, that I have seen pictures 323 with a Pz3..
But my memory has failed before, and if you have the Stats that show, then  :salute

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2013, 11:14:19 AM »
My memory is tellin me, that I have seen pictures 323 with a Pz3..
But my memory has failed before, and if you have the Stats that show, then  :salute
Nah, just the fast and dirty stuff on the internet.  Looks like the cargo limit for the Me323 was about 24,000lbs and the Panzer III looks to be over 45,000lbs.
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #33 on: August 18, 2013, 12:59:54 PM »
Actually it wasn't. The CG-4A glider could carry a jeep, or a jeep trailer fully loaded with combat equipment, or a 75 mm howitzer, or a 37 mm anti-tank gun,  and specially designed airborne construction equipment including small graders and bulldozers.
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Dude thats an awesome model. Great thread. I didnt know squat about the ME 323.
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #34 on: August 18, 2013, 01:20:37 PM »
Nah, just the fast and dirty stuff on the internet.  Looks like the cargo limit for the Me323 was about 24,000lbs and the Panzer III looks to be over 45,000lbs.

The Me 321 (glider) had a much higher maximum load of 20,000 kg and could thus (barely) carry an early Panzer III or IV (none of them are in game).

Lighter armored vehicles a Wespe or a Marder I were about the upper limit for the Me 323
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #35 on: August 18, 2013, 01:32:42 PM »
The Me 321 (glider) had a much higher maximum load of 20,000 kg and could thus (barely) carry an early Panzer III or IV (none of them are in game).

Lighter armored vehicles a Wespe or a Marder I were about the upper limit for the Me 323

Could it manage a Puma?
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #36 on: August 18, 2013, 02:01:34 PM »
Could it manage a Puma?

Judging by the weight alone, this should have been possible.
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2013, 06:44:19 PM »

The Me 321, the glider predecessor of the Me 323 (which was never towed by the way), was flying and in service before the CG-4a

 i stand corrected Lusche. here's a good article and photos of both.

http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/models/aircraft/Messerschmitt-Me321.html
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #38 on: August 18, 2013, 09:41:13 PM »
Ah OK, could'a been the Glider I remember too.. Honestly don't recall the Engines..

Just remember film of the Clam shell doors swinging open, guys hopping out to guide the Bifold ramps down.. Ramps supported by a cable pulley under the cockpit.. Then a Panzer III  :huh driving out and down the ramps..

Thinking harder, the film was circa Summer 1940, buildup for operation Sealion period, and it was a Pz3 with a 37mm.. I have seen it multiple times, but haven't found it in my collection.. Damn, I hate that!

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #39 on: August 19, 2013, 04:32:22 AM »
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2013, 02:02:43 PM »
thanks for posting those photos... couldnt find any that good
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #42 on: August 19, 2013, 06:16:32 PM »
 Finally an aircraft I might have a chance at hitting! :o

   


     I say include it if only so we have an A/C that I can see!




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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #43 on: August 19, 2013, 07:35:16 PM »
I wonder how easy it was to fly.

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Re: Messerschmitt Me 323 Gigant
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2013, 08:59:45 AM »
hi

i like the m323 idea.
give it a chance. My squad will often use it im sure. exspezialy if you are able to carry vehicles and create new spawn points  :D. imagine what the evect will be  :aok.

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