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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2013, 07:12:30 AM »
I heard, on a very-much-rumor basis, that we were flying B-36s over the USSR during the mid-1950s, confident that they couldn't be intercepted.  If true (who knows?) it would help to explain a relatively quiet period in superpower relations.

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The MiG17 was certainly capable of intercepting the B-36 with a speed advantage of 500mph over the B-36's cruise speed and at least 10,000ft ceiling advantage.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2013, 09:42:53 AM »
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #47 on: August 14, 2013, 10:30:38 AM »
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #48 on: August 14, 2013, 11:14:41 AM »
and for further comparison:

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #49 on: August 15, 2013, 01:29:03 PM »
You can't tell from the perspective, but the B-36 has a much longer wingspan than the B-52 (230 ft vs. 185 ft).  The B-36 has a longer wingspan than a 747.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2013, 09:06:10 PM »
And the B-36 gear arrangement didn't require wing tip wheels.

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« Reply #51 on: August 15, 2013, 09:07:20 PM »
B-47s are sexy

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #53 on: August 16, 2013, 01:26:03 PM »
I never saw a B-47 yet either. I simply have to make that trip to that museum in Ohio.

I was stationed at a base once that had a burned out hulk of a B-58 Hustler that the fire guys used to practice on. It was beautiful even in that state.

When I was over seas, back when Iran blew up in '79, I saw a weird looking air craft on the flight line that I actually had to ask the maintenance guys what it was. It was one of the last B-57 Canberras we still had operational in USAF. It was set up for reconnaissance or EW, I dont know which. But there is was sitting for a few days and then I never saw it again. An interesting Doc on the plane http://youtu.be/LAoA70dSsMk .

Its my understanding they played a large role in the Indo/Paki conflicts.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #54 on: August 16, 2013, 01:55:36 PM »
"That museum in Ohio" is well worth the pilgrimage!  When I was going to college, I made lots of cross-country drives between St. Louis and my parent's house in New Jersey.  Whenever possible, I timed my arrival in the Akron area to coincide with the museum's hours.  Such an amazing collection!  I remember very well the feeling of awe as I peered up at the gigantic B-36.


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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #55 on: August 16, 2013, 03:09:48 PM »
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #56 on: August 17, 2013, 01:13:22 PM »
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #57 on: August 17, 2013, 01:14:05 PM »
The MiG17 was certainly capable of intercepting the B-36 with a speed advantage of 500mph over the B-36's cruise speed and at least 10,000ft ceiling advantage.
:airplane: Not sure where you got your info, but the MIG-17 had a service ceiling of around 38,000 feet! The RB-36's, which ventured into MIG country normally cruised around 55,000 feet. After the famous U-2 shoot down over Russia, the 36's were never again flown within range of the ground to air missiles.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #58 on: August 17, 2013, 01:17:22 PM »
Holey Mackeral, the size difference  :O
:airplane: And the production models were about 9 feet longer than the test ship shown in the pic you commented on! When they added the "Bubble" cockpit area and the tail gun housing on production models, it was 9 feet longer!
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2013, 03:06:43 PM »
:airplane: Not sure where you got your info, but the MIG-17 had a service ceiling of around 38,000 feet! The RB-36's, which ventured into MIG country normally cruised around 55,000 feet. After the famous U-2 shoot down over Russia, the 36's were never again flown within range of the ground to air missiles.

Sure earl. :x That 38,000' is ~14,000' less what the MiG-15bis could do  and ~10,000' less than the F-86E could do.

Only the featherlight RB-36-III could get over 50,000' and not for continuous cruise.