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Offline earl1937

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2013, 12:02:50 PM »
Time to tell them, Earl!
:airplane: About all I know are stories related to me by Capt Jim Knox, a 1st officer on a RB-36C, which could fly as high as 55,000 feet! The Air National Guard gys from Texas would do practice intercept over the gulf of Mexico. They would get behind about 50 or 60 miles or so, go supersonic, zoom up and get a gun camera shot on the way up, his engine would flame about 50K, then the RB-36 would turn one way or the other and the trick for the 104 pilot was to get a gun camera shot on the way back down. I wasn't there, but I can just guess the wild ride by the 104 guys trying to maneuver to get that shot on the way back down. Must of been a lot of fun. The G-32 came into play as they tracked the 104 on his first pass, timing a turn to try to avoid the camera shot.
The ANG gys flying F-84F's and F-100's couldn't get anywhere close to the 36, but I was told they tried all the time. Of course, in real time in combat, the Mig 21's and 23's, with air to air rockets would have made mince meat out the 36! While the B-36 was a dangerous weapon as far as Russia was concerned, I have often wondered how many would have actually got to their assignment if actual war had broke out between us.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2013, 12:10:18 PM »
:airplane: Get him to tell you about the stories concerning the G-32, radar operated gun in the tail and the practice intercept by the different Air National guard outfits around, especially the stories concerning the Lockheed F-104C starfighters...some of those stories related to me have wild to say the least.

Sadly, he died at an early age succumbing to diabetes.  He had already lost his leg.

I would love to have chatted with him about this.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2013, 01:41:46 PM »
:airplane: Get him to tell you about the stories concerning the G-32, radar operated gun in the tail and the practice intercept by the different Air National guard outfits around, especially the stories concerning the Lockheed F-104C starfighters...some of those stories related to me have wild to say the least.

One of my great memories is having watched Starfighters fly while in Turkish service. I always thought them elegant, beautiful rocket ships. They were fast as all get out and just looked beautiful in the air. http://www.pacificaviationmuseum.org/pearl-harbor-blog/lockheed-f-104-starfighter

Ive never seen a B-36. I'd like to know where any are displayed, should I get there at any time. Before I die I'd love to take a road trip to the great air museums in the country.

The B-36 was/is very symbolic in USAF because the adaptation of it and its service marked the elevation of the then fledgeling USAF into the primary strategic tip of the spear. The USN and USAF fought like cats and dogs over who should be assigned the role of primary nuclear deterrence. The USN had its P2V Neptune from its CVs able to launch strategic weapons and it wanted the new services deterrence role axed. The USAF, SAC, and the B-36 won out and the rest is History.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2013, 03:54:39 PM »
Howdy, Rich.

The Wikipedia article says where B-36's are on display:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convair_B-36

For great air museums, my two favorites have been:
#1:  US Air Force Museum in Dayton, OH (a B-36 is there).
#2:  Udvar-Hazy Museum (used to be the annex to the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum) near Dulles airport in the Washington DC area.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2013, 07:37:33 AM »
TY. I'd love to see one.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2013, 09:48:19 AM »
TY. I'd love to see one.
:airplane: Rich, here is a video clip from the movie "SAC", starring Jimmy Stewart and June Allison and Frank Lovejoy! If you ever get to see the movie, I strongly recommend it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruE8yhkHke8
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2013, 11:41:00 AM »
:airplane: Rich, here is a video clip from the movie "SAC", starring Jimmy Stewart and June Allison and Frank Lovejoy! If you ever get to see the movie, I strongly recommend it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruE8yhkHke8

Excellent clip.  Thanks for the link. <S>

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2013, 11:51:57 AM »
:airplane: Rich, here is a video clip from the movie "SAC", starring Jimmy Stewart and June Allison and Frank Lovejoy! If you ever get to see the movie, I strongly recommend it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruE8yhkHke8
Jimmy Stewart - or should we say Maj.General Stewart.  I don't know if he ever flew the Peacemaker but he did fly in the B-52 (non-duty) to Vietnam in the 60's a couple of times.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2013, 12:49:44 PM »
"Peacemaker"? Why not "Love Machine"  :rofl

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2013, 01:53:48 PM »
:airplane: Rich, here is a video clip from the movie "SAC", starring Jimmy Stewart and June Allison and Frank Lovejoy! If you ever get to see the movie, I strongly recommend it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruE8yhkHke8

The flight engineer sounds like the Col from MASH.

If the number on the fuselage is real, the a/c is a B-36H-35-CF. The B-36H-equipped 42nd Wing at Loring AFB, Maine, began to convert to B-52s in June of 1956.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2013, 05:18:31 PM »
The flight engineer sounds like the Col from MASH.

If the number on the fuselage is real, the a/c is a B-36H-35-CF. The B-36H-equipped 42nd Wing at Loring AFB, Maine, began to convert to B-52s in June of 1956.
:airplane: You sir are correct on both counts! The flight engineer was indeed the Colonel on Mash and the B-36 in question, was, when the movie was made in 1955, stationed at Carswell AFB, Fort Worth, Tex and when the base started converting to B-52's, the whole wing was moved to Peace AFB in New Hampshere, later to transfere to Loring AFB, and I think they were converted to RB models, which could cruise at 55,000. When they were stripped of all guns, except G-32 in tail and other equipment, the overall weight when down by 9,000 lbs or something like that.
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2013, 06:27:31 PM »
My regards,

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2013, 06:45:55 PM »
You'll like this video...


I did like that video, thank you WW.

I heard, on a very-much-rumor basis, that we were flying B-36s over the USSR during the mid-1950s, confident that they couldn't be intercepted.  If true (who knows?) it would help to explain a relatively quiet period in superpower relations.

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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2013, 12:15:59 AM »
What an awesome plane!
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Re: The Peace Maker
« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2013, 04:21:39 AM »
Something like a HS125 or BA111.