unperk the m4/76

[surfinn]

Nothing about this tank warrants a perk cost.

[WWhiskey]

+1

[lyric1]

Agreed. 

[Eric19]

+1

[Karnak]

-1 unless paired with unperking the T-34/85.  When the M4A3(76) was freely available it killed the use of all other free tanks.

It has a decent gun with a very high rate of fire, hence the need for it to be perked lightly as a population control measure.

[Paladin3]

+1

Bullarny about the T34. That thing is doggone near indestructible, fast, and I see it all the time. It is more popular than Tigers and other "superarmor" imo. That thing needs more perk point costs associated to it. The M4 nearly always dies with one hit, and it does not rule in the firepower department, and is slow (almost as molasses).

[Lusche]

-1 unless paired with unperking the T-34/85.  When the M4A3(76) was freely available it killed the use of all other free tanks.

But there is an interesting twist to it.

Indeed, when unperked, the M4(76) dominated the ground war for a short time. When it was slightly perked (along with the T-34/85) the usage was cut back to a still high, but 'acceptable' level, and remained at that for a long time
However, for reasons that are not yet entirely clear to me, the M4(76) usage suddenly radically dropped not too long ago. Despite being still a very good overall medium tank and with still a very good tank combat K/D.

[shermanjr]

neither tank should be unperkd both cost wat 1-4 perks so quit ur b1tchin bout it.

[dirtdart]

But there is an interesting twist to it.

Indeed, when unperked, the M4(76) dominated the ground war for a short time. When it was slightly perked (along with the T-34/85) the usage was cut back to a still high, but 'acceptable' level, and remained at that for a long time
However, for reasons that are not yet entirely clear to me, the M4(76) usage suddenly radically dropped not too long ago. Despite being still a very good overall medium tank and with still a very good tank combat K/D.

The M18 killed it.... at least for me. If I can only get hit once, regardless, I am doing it at 50 mph jumping over another tank.

[surfinn]

But there is an interesting twist to it.

Indeed, when unperked, the M4(76) dominated the ground war for a short time. When it was slightly perked (along with the T-34/85) the usage was cut back to a still high, but 'acceptable' level, and remained at that for a long time
However, for reasons that are not yet entirely clear to me, the M4(76) usage suddenly radically dropped not too long ago. Despite being still a very good overall medium tank and with still a very good tank combat K/D.

I think if you will look at the updates you will find that it was modified and its armour cut way back, shortly after the panzer armour was updated as well. I was a big user of the M476 and still am. When it wasn't perked it was a brand new tank had decent armour and a great fire rate compared to other tanks thus the high usage. With the addition of other tanks to the arena however that is no longer the case. Quite frankly don't see why any medium tank would be perked especially one as weak as the m4/76

[bangsbox]

The M18 killed it.... at least for me. If I can only get hit once, regardless, I am doing it at 50 mph jumping over another tank.

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 76 can be hit a lot more than once (not to mention near misses with HE and machine guns don't kill it). A hull down m4 76 can be a difficult to kill. The m18 is always easy to kill when it's not doing 50mph

[dirtdart]

All true for some. My tanks generally are one hit wonders especially tigers and that new 88 jadhummerhummer. My point was if I am paying a perk and dying I am not going out without style points.

[Tank-Ace]

But there is an interesting twist to it.

Indeed, when unperked, the M4(76) dominated the ground war for a short time. When it was slightly perked (along with the T-34/85) the usage was cut back to a still high, but 'acceptable' level, and remained at that for a long time
However, for reasons that are not yet entirely clear to me, the M4(76) usage suddenly radically dropped not too long ago. Despite being still a very good overall medium tank and with still a very good tank combat K/D.

Compared to when I left, I've noticed a lot more people are using the T-34/85, citing HVAP. Based on their tactics, it seems they are going for the few quick kills then die method.

The biggest reasons I oppose unperking it are; it is the toughest true medium tank, as far as actual damage it takes to kill one, this being due to the wet storage.

Second, it would require unperking the T-34/85, as you said. this would kill Panzer IV usage, warranting 30 ENY, and maybe 40 for the F2. Then you have the problem of everything else being all messed up in ENY, etc.

Just a big mess for reasons of current popular play style.

[surfinn]

Tank Ace

The T34/85 is in a totally differant category than the m4/76. It has way better armour. Way better hitting power with the HVAP ammo and larger gun. Its HE rounds causes more damage per shot to structures than the M4/76. The only andvantage it doesn't have is its fire rate. I can get three rounds out to his two fired. Which doesn't help the M4/76 at all if they are facing each other unless hes very close.

The M4/76 armour was taken down a few notches in a update. Prior to that a IL2 couldn't kill it at a shallow attack angle from any side. They had to attack it from a high attack angle hitting the top turret or top rear engine compartment to get a kill on it. That's not the case now, a shallow angle of attack from a IL2 in the side or rear of the vehicle is a one pass kill now and that's with 37mms. Any tank out there can one shot kill it from the same angles and most in the game now can one shot kill it with a front armour hit. Its front hull armor is lighter than the panzer h's hull armor,its rate of fire is only slightly faster than the panzer H but its gun doesn't carry as much punch as the panzer. With its current capability's in the game it should carry the same perk cost as the panzer h which is 0.

[Zacherof]

Since in il2 can kill it, does that mean my panther can be unperked?