sasquatch bigfoot

[Shifty]

That's really freaky, wonder why they didn't stack them on the dining table?   

Texas poltergeist are easily confused. 

[saggs]

Saggs,

  I have come across many a carcass in the bush,mind you it's usually early to mid spring and by fall most all remains are gone. BTW,I live in that vast waist land known as Canada and we have about 6 months of winter so the insects are about to take care of business for half the year!

  While it's try mother nature does a great job cleaning up after herself,she's not infalable or why would we have an animal that looks like a platypus?     

  I did once see a big hairy foot in the bush,it was attached to a moose tho.   Funny thing is it kept asking me if I wanted to see it pull a rabbit out of a hat.



   

I've found elk, mule deer, bison and other smaller carcasses before as well.  On one early spring trip in Yellowstone (was first week of June I think) I passed dozens of elk and 2 bison carcasses over a 35 mile hike, but I'm willing to bet by July there wasn't a trace of them left.   The carcass I referenced earlier was an elk in a river in the Tetons, mid-winter.  I saw it in the morning and decided to come back late afternoon to try and photograph the raptors and coyotes feeding off it.  Was shocked when I returned to find it already picked clean and most of the bones scattered.  The only mostly complete skeleton I've found that had been there for more then a few months was a ram deep in a crevice in a boulder field in the Wind Rivers, I figure it got trapped in there and died, looked several years old and I was surprise most of the bones where still there.

My point still stands though. IF there was a large ape in the forests of NA (and I'm not saying there is) with a minimal breeding population, the odds of running across a carcass of one would be smaller then the odds of seeing a live one, since carcasses left unprotected mostly disappear in a matter of weeks.

As for the moose...  they scare me.    Americans mostly seem to have an irrational fear of bears, but I tell you the moose are much more aggressive and dangerous, I think they are all a bit "touched in the head."  I once left my tent in the middle of the night for a pee, only to walk straight into a moose just standing 20' from my tent staring at it, so I went in the opposite direction and this moose just stood there like a statue and stared at me the whole time... creepy I tell ya.  Another time I came around a blind switchback descending a trail to find a bull moose just standing there in the middle of the trail, no sooner had we started to back up then he charged me and my buddy, we both ran off the trail to the downhill side stumbling through the brush, when we eventually looked back the moose was standing where we left the trail just staring us down with a maniacal look in his eyes.  

[jimson]

I don't know whether or not a great ape exists in North America today, it's possible, but probably unlikely.

However I have to take issue with most of the naysayers common arguments though because they just don't stand up to scrutiny.

Never found a body/bones:  This is the argument that I find most ridiculous.    

I don't find it ridiculous. Bones and fragments of bones from thousands of years ago have been found, Yet never one from the Sasquatch?  Doesn't prove it's non existence but makes it seem much less likely.

[surfinn]

Second story well actually third story.

I was 25-27 at the time, working as a paramedic in the south MS area. We had one person that lived in Pearl River MS, we had to take to dialysis twice a week. She lived way out close to the LA MS border yet south of I-110 but close to it. Elderly lady whose kids did the best the could to take care of her. Her home was a rundown trailer with a small driveway(you could barley see the trailer from the road) and a garden to the side of the trailer that her family grew vegetables for her in. She had this mean mutt that was always out side under the trailer that would try to bite the hell out of anyone approaching her home until he got to know you, then he would just charge you and act like he was going to bite you.  
One of the times I had to transport her the first thing I noticed was her dog wasn't charging us, second thing I noticed was her garden was trashed on the side closest to the woods(at least three rows worth of vegetables riped up).  Normally they hear us coming and the door was open waiting for us not this time. When we knocked on the door her son opened it for us and let us in but he was acting nervous. Honestly you kinda key into things like that as a paramedic that has to go into a bunch of differant environments. Everyone there was very polite and shortly we were on the way to the Dialysis center. I asked Mrs smith (not her real name) what happened to her dog and was he ok. She replied with ya hes ok he was under the bed and wont come out that ole man of the woods came by last night and scared everyone to death. I've know her for a while at this point and was actually worried that someone in her neighborhood was causing problems for her. I asked her if there was anything I could do to get law enforcement involved. She said no that old man in the woods doesn't know or care about the law he came and tore my garden up last night, took what he wanted and left. At this point I'm confused and said well does the old man in the woods have a name, I'm sure the local sheriffs would have a quiet talk with him about it.  She looked me in the eye and said they wont believe me because he lives in the woods. After a long ride she eventually described something that stood up to 8 ft in height, compared to her trailer on blocks, and according to her that mutt had a good reason to hide because it killed her last dog 12 years earlyer.

[morfiend]

 Saggs,

 Just so you know I wasnt disputing you just that in different places a carcass can last a long time or not!


  Oh and I agree about the moose! Likely the most dangerous animal in NA simply because as you say I think they are touched in the head!.....



   

[Widewing]

I've had several encounters Moose in NW Maine...  Ornery things...

Me, my wife, my Brother-in-law and his wife would canoe the lakes and rivers in the area. We would beach the canoes and camp. The upside was that few things in nature are as marvelous as a night in the wilderness. The downside was that if there is water, there will be wildlife. Up there, that wildlife included Black Bear, and of greater concern, Moose. The Moose tend to head to water very early to feed and drink. Early enough that you may wake up to one not very distant. We heard one walk by, before sunrise, not 30 feet from our tent. The rule is: Never startle a Moose if it can be avoided. If the Moose knows you're there, give it a wide birth. If he hasn't got the scent yet, or seen you, be cautious. 1,200 to 1,500 pounds of animal is always dangerous when frightened. Late one morning, we came around a bend to find a bull Moose, knee deep in water not too distant. That is why we hugged the outside of the bend, so as to see them as soon as possible. For the most part, the Moose wasn't interested in moving.. So, we had to wait him out as there wasn't enough width to get past without risk of his getting annoyed. So, we beached the canoes and had an early lunch about 200 yards upstream.

We went on these trips well armed. At least one rifle (usually two), a 12 Ga. shotgun and at least one revolver. My favorite pack rifle was/is a Winchester 1892, chambered in .357 Mag. I load my own ammo then and now, with a 158 grain JHP over 21 grains of Win 296 powder. About 2,000 fpm, Similar knockdown power to a 30-30 soft point round out to about 50 yards. Enough for Black Bear, but not adequate for a 3/4 ton Moose. That's why the 870 was loaded with slugs and my brother-in-law usually brought along his Marlin 444. We never needed to use the firearms, except when Tim put a .444 Marlin round into a tree about 4 feet from a stubbornly curious Black Bear approaching within about 30 yards from where we had selected as our camp site. The sound of the report, and that big round smacking the tree frightened the Bear, and he skedaddled. We elected to go further down stream, on the opposite side, to camp. Thinking that the Bear might return. Tim, matter-of-factly stated that the next round would have been through the Bear's eye. Knowing Tim, I had no doubt that he would have done exactly that. He'd killed several over the years with that Marlin 444. One, wasn't hunting. A male Blackie had wandered into his yard (Tim lives alongside a lake in upper Maine) and was sparring with Tim's Mastiff. It was a big dog, but still half the weight of the Bear. Tim heard the commotion, and after trying to frighten off the Bear, and worried for the Mastiff, which would not back down, he was forced to shoot the Bear. That was almost 30 years ago, and old "Bull" is long dead. But, that dog was not afraid of anything, man nor beast.

Oh, and locals have reported Bigfoot sightings in that area of Maine for two hundred years. Myth or mistaken ID? Probably, but who can know for sure?

[JimmyC]

remember this Darwinian moment

(CNN) -- A man trying to create a Bigfoot hoax on a highway died after being hit by two cars, officials in Montana said.

Randy Lee Tenley dressed in a Ghillie suit -- camouflage designed to resemble heavy foliage -- and stepped out onto Highway 93 Sunday night, officials said.

"He probably would not have been very easy to see at all," said Jim Schneider, a state trooper.

[Mano]

Messin' with Sasquatch

http://youtu.be/k8W9U0qhLz8

[Mano]

I grew up in Eureka, CA ....aka Big Foot HQ. The Wallace brothers used to leave big foot imprints on the redwood logging trails every time the mills were shut down. They used to log the redwoods, but did not have any income during the slow periods, so they accepted money from the Eureka Hotel to leave prints. Scientists and tourists would fill up the Hotel to investigate the footprints. If the mills were down the local economy came to a halt. This went on for a long period of time. Scientists were always scratching their heads because the foot prints were so close together. You would think the gap between steps would be huge considering they believed the animal to be 8 to 9 feet tall. The Wallace Brothers were more like 5'10 to 5'11 and it never occurred to them to lengthen the stride of their prints.  The police finally caught them and the story was revealed to the community. They paid a fine and that was an end to it. It was also reported they made a film with one of their wives in a monkey suit. Everyone has seen that film made from a 35mm camera in the 1960's. They were just a couple of guys With a sense of humor. They never intended to harm anyone. The people in Eureka will always chuckle when they hear Big Foot stories. If they ever catch a Big Foot, it will change everything.

 

[dedalos]

remember this Darwinian moment

(CNN) -- A man trying to create a Bigfoot hoax on a highway died after being hit by two cars, officials in Montana said.

Randy Lee Tenley dressed in a Ghillie suit -- camouflage designed to resemble heavy foliage -- and stepped out onto Highway 93 Sunday night, officials said.

"He probably would not have been very easy to see at all," said Jim Schneider, a state trooper.

yes, heavy foliage blends in with the highway

[nrshida]

Mite of been a UFO ? Now I have seen one of those up close . No lie got a best friend that seen it with me . Good thing I did not have a gun I would have shot at it .

Flench, why would you want to shoot at something which you could not identify?

[sunfan1121]

Flench, why would you want to shoot at something which you could not identify?

We can identify once it's dead. Merica!

[Slash27]

I hope your joking .
And yeah me and another guy my best friend seen the UFO good . His name is Jimmy Knichel and is on FB just ask him if you don't believe me . I still think it's ours tho and not from another world .

He is correct. There is no such thing as a "black panther" as there is no certain species that is called a panther. All cats are panthers or Panthera. A leopard being Panthera pardus, a jaguar being Panthera onca. In both of those species you get cases of Melanism in which they have an excess of black pigment. It's likely this happens in cougars/mountain lions and that gives us "black panthers" in North America. These sightings are dismissed as mistaken identity by "experts" because they have no specimens. I'm not sure wtf you're mistaking a large black cat to be but whatever. I know a lot of people, credible people, who have seen them around here. Everyone in my family has seen a mountain lion besides my dad around here just driving down the road. I see their tracks all the time on my friends ranch where a black one was spotted.

I watched an episode on Monster Quest about black cats. Had some guy in Oklahoma who witnessed attacking his Llama but the experts said he was mistaken and they don't exist. ( guess it was Chupacabra eating Llamas in a cat costume) The next on the news a lady in Arkansas had video of a "black panther" trying to get in her house. Apparently the cat was rabid and was shot by law enforcement. Never heard anything else about it.

[Shifty]

We can identify once it's dead. Merica!

 

[-ammo-]

I honestly have no idea what killed them . Look's like I would have seen some track's . I am a very good tracker and trapper and never seen any track's . Mite of been a UFO ? Now I have seen one of those up close . No lie got a best friend that seen it with me . Good thing I did not have a gun I would have shot at it .
You must not live to fare from me ?

I believe there are panthers in the SE USA.  I saw what I believed to be one while hunting in NE Mississippi (Hatchee Bottom). There were two other hunters with me at the time.  Too big and dark furred to be a bobcat and had a tail which would rule out a black bear - the former would have been unheard of in that area anyway.

Here's a funny story, but totally explainable.  I was deer hunting in Butler County Alabama at the age if 16 - so I guess this was 1983.  We had been given permission to hunt a 500+ acre place which was loaded with game.  The previous summer my brother and I spent considerable time scouting and placing our stands.  On opening day, we got to he tract early - like 2 hours before first light.  We made out way to our individual stands and waited for light.  Just before sunrise - still too dark to see - my tree started shaking.  Not too subtly either.  I got a little nervous, as the noise accompanying the vibrations was not indentifyable to me.  It kept happening and i started straining my neck and eyes to find the source; I admit I was a bit unnerved.  Just as the the light started to come, I heard a gobble that was so loud, it scared the shat out of me.  The turkeys took off just then and I had to laugh at myself.  There must have been 10 of them in that tree!