here you go icepac its from wiki.............

[Chalenge]

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Any one have this book...

P-63: 3 different two-seaters

 

[Megalodon]

Showing pics of the E and F 2 seaters <I think> I'm looking for text maybe talking of p-63's at or near the BoB   <working on it>

When we get the P-63...the P-63A-10 would be the choice as it was the most produced of the A varient.
M-10 Cannon <a bit faster and 58 rounds>
4 x 50cal+
2 X 500lbs
6 x Rocketrail

P-63A (Bell Model 33): First production model (1,825 built), deliveries from October 1943.
Sub-variants were:
   P-63A-1-BE: 50 built (s/ns 42-68861 - 42-68910). Virtually identical with XP-63A. Had 37mm M-4 cannon with 30 rounds, four 12.7mm guns and provision for a drop tank or a 227kg bomb under the fuselage.
   P-63A-5-BE: 20 built (s/ns 42-68911 - 42-68930). Introduced dorsal radio mast. Increased armor.
   P-63A-6-BE: 130 built (s/ns 42-68931 - 42-69060). Fitted with additional underwing racks for drop tanks or bombs. One experimentally fitted with ski undercarriage.
   P-63A-7-BE: 150 built (s/ns 42-69061 - 42-69210). Different propeller, increase in wing loading, modified nose gun mounts and horizontal tail surfaces.
   P-63A-8-BE: 200 built (s/ns 42-69211 - 42-69410). Increased armor, improved propeller, water injection added for engine, ammunition for wing guns reduced from 250 to 200rpg.
   P-63A-9-BE: 450 built (s/ns 42-69411 - 42-69860). Increased armor, 37mm M-10 cannon (with 58 rounds) instead of earlier M-4.
   P-63A-10-BE: 730 built (s/ns 42-69861 - 42-69879; 42-69975 - 42-70685). Armor further increased, underwing rocket rails added.

 

[lyric1]

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Any one have this book... I believe it to have info on P-63's in the west against Germany.. It is extremely expensive here and writtin in Russian....Kilo, Lyric, Motherland, Wmaker?

Red Stars Vol 4 by Petrov and Guest 2002
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http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/BookReviews/RedStars4/index.php

No.
I have toyed with buying this one it is a little pricey.

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Never seen the USA distributor before now that is in my price range. All the books I have seen before are all about $400.00 $ 65.00 is doable.

http://www.malhobby.com/

[MiloMorai]

No.
I have toyed with buying this one it is a little pricey.

$39 is too pricey?

[lyric1]

$39 is too pricey?

See above. 

[Megalodon]

No.
I have toyed with buying this one it is a little pricey.

Edit:
Never seen the USA distributor before now that is in my price range. All the books I have seen before are all about $400.00 $ 65.00 is doable.

http://www.malhobby.com/

Mr. Edgar Seay Sr. passed away in 2010 at the age of 100 the book store was what kept him going. His son was running it. Lemme know what ya find out.

amazon has them used for 400+ 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/952502623X/ref=dp_olp_used/192-8716432-9765627?ie=UTF8&condition=used

[Vinkman]

It's debatable whether or not the P-63 saw combat against the Japanese.  The story varies depending on the 'source'.  Some sources state that one Ki-43 from the IJAAF was shot down by a Soviet P-63, other sources state it was a Ki-27 or Ki-43 from either the Manchukuo Imperial Air Force or the National Government of China Air Force of the Reorganized National Government of China (Inner Mongolia Japanese puppet government).  Some accounts also state the action took place over Manchuria, others state Mongolia or over what is now North Korea.

Would be nice to actually see some sort of official record of the account.

ack-ack

I would like a better as well.

[Widewing]

P-63 performance...

[sonic23]

Umm, you do know that wiki is not always the most reliable source. I'm not saying that this is wrong, only that it is wise to take all wiki entries with a grain of salt. At least double, or triple check their statements.

Wikipedia is a much more reliable source than icepac

[Widewing]

F8F related....

[Widewing]

[Wmaker]

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Any one have this book... I believe it to have info on P-63's in the west against Germany.. It is extremely expensive here and writtin in Russian....Kilo, Lyric, Motherland, Wmaker?

Red Stars Vol 4 by Petrov and Guest 2002
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http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/BookReviews/RedStars4/index.php

Well, the book with that particular cover is published by a Finnish publishing house and written mostly in English (captions are bilingual, Finnish/English). I'm not aware of any editions in Russian. As a general note, there are a lot of people who try to sell (mostly out of print - of course) books at Amazon.com as "collectibles" with totally ridiculous prizes. It was ~40 euros in Finnish book store chain a while ago (now it is said to be unavailable there).

On to the info,

Geust & Petrov mention that a handful of Kingcobras joined VVS regiments in the ETO. For example 6 GIAK's 67 GIAP used six of them in the Berlin operation. In the Manchurian campaign, several regiments of the Soviet Pacific Fleet were equipped with Kingcobras.

(Personally, I think P-63 should right at the bottom of the list as far as inclusion to the game goes due to the reasons already pointed out in various threads.)

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As for the performance, the Bell's own figures indeed show over 380mph on the deck. Francis Dean in his AHT-book considers these figures as "optimistic" as "manufacture's figures can to be". Flight testing by the Air Force showed clearly lesser performance.

[LCADolby]

Wikipedia is a much more reliable source than icepac

I regret eating spaghetti letters while reading that 

[Butcher]

It saw action against the Japanese  

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Any one have this book... I believe it to have info on P-63's in the west against Germany.. It is extremely expensive here and writtin in Russian....Kilo, Lyric, Motherland, Wmaker?

Red Stars Vol 4 by Petrov and Guest 2002
(Image removed from quote.)
http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/BookReviews/RedStars4/index.php

I have the book, It shows plenty of photos of the P-63, including skins, my best translation says the 17th IAP Fighter unit flew P-63s in combat and shot down one aircraft - captain Vyacheslav Sirotin is credited with an Ki-43 Oscar. It appears quite a few units were being refitted with the P-63, interestingly around the battle of berlin many soviet units didn't have time to transition, rather they just kept fighting with what they had.

Most of the King Cobras flew combat air support for its amphibious operations in the Sakhalin Islands and attacked enemy shipping (mostly barges).

I have to look if I have any memoirs around for Capt. Sirotin, however my best answer is I can account for what Russian units flew P-63s and I can credibly say they flew in combat. I know what units flew and who flew them.

Here's the problem everyone faces - when Operation August storm started, the Japanese had no FUEL or resources left, basically the King Cobra flew into combat against any opposition, that doesn't rule out the fact it flew in combat, rather in just one week period the 17 IAP for example only ran into two aircraft total with one being a victory.

It fits the criteria to be added in Aces high, It flew in combat (doesnt matter how weak the Manchuria opposition was).
There are a few Squadrons of P63s that flew in full strength during August storm.


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Here's a problem I now have, I cannot find any memoirs of captain Vyacheslav Sirotin, or anyone in 17 IAP (not uncommon among soviets), for me I have no supporting evidence other then "hearsay". However I do believe what is written is true, the attack on barges make sense and the landings at Sakhalin Islands put the 17 IAP in that area for air combat patrol.

[Saxman]

Ack-Ack will be along shortly with the dozens of different versions of the aerial victory story that are out there.