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Offline tuton25

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The Wirble
« on: August 25, 2013, 09:41:14 AM »
Needs to be dropped to a 5 ENY and perked.....
I've heard it has the best KD of anything in the game (snailman help me out here) and is used very extensively....
A few more Flak platforms other than the Osti and M16 would round out the selection.....
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Offline waystin2

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2013, 10:22:12 AM »
The WirbelGawd enjoys this thread.
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Offline Karnak

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2013, 10:26:50 AM »
K/D of 1.48/1 is far from the best K/D ratio.

Tiger II's is 8.19/1.

Highest non-perk unit is the Fw190D-9 at 1.69/1.

This is ignoring gunners and ship gunners which don't work the same.
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Offline StokesAk

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2013, 10:36:17 AM »
WirbleWinds give me THE worst time. I think they should at least have a clip size so that they cannot lay down a continuous stream of bullets.
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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2013, 11:22:22 AM »
I'm 11 and 4 vs the whirbel this tour .............winning!  :banana:
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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2013, 11:28:02 AM »
Quote from: tuton25 on August 25, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
Needs to be dropped to a 5 ENY and perked.....
I've heard it has the best KD of anything in the game (snailman help me out here) and is used very extensively....
A few more Flak platforms other than the Osti and M16 would round out the selection.....


IT NEEDS...

It needs to based off of something you heard somewhere from someone???

Make an argument, what you've said is basically a statement and you expect us to infer what you mean.
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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2013, 03:05:00 PM »
Quote from: tuton25 on August 25, 2013, 09:41:14 AM
I've heard it has the best KD of anything in the game (snailman help me out here)


You need me to do a single click on the stats pages for you?  :huh
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Offline Delirium

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2013, 03:13:31 PM »
I'd like to see a greater variety in antiaircraft guns utilized.  Currently the kills from Wirbelwind are 85%+ of all ground based, with the Ostwind carrying approximately 12% and the M16 carrying 500 kills total for July. The usage of the Wirbelwind reminds me of the C-hog days when that aircraft outnumbered the arena by such a large margin.
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Offline SirNuke

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2013, 03:57:50 PM »
there's already a wishlist thread for that http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,352657.0.html
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Offline Acidrain

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2013, 04:44:01 PM »
why would one choose the Osti over the Wirb...the Wirb has better visibility in the gunsight making it easier to track crossing targets. Lethality wise they are extremely close within  1.5k. because the Osti has poor barrel stability it offers little benefit in killing fighters that are diving on you and Bombers absorb the 37mm like its made of memory foam.
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Offline Reaper90

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2013, 05:29:07 PM »
Quote from: Delirium on August 25, 2013, 03:13:31 PM
I'd like to see a greater variety in antiaircraft guns utilized.  Currently the kills from Wirbelwind are 85%+ of all ground based, with the Ostwind carrying approximately 12% and the M16 carrying 500 kills total for July. The usage of the Wirbelwind reminds me of the C-hog days when that aircraft outnumbered the arena by such a large margin.

Agreed.

The WW needs a light perk, and we need several new mobile AA platforms between it and the Osti and M16.

As mentioned, there're several wishlist threads about it.

IIRC, there have been multiple threads with lots of possibilities, including:









Lots of possibilities for mobile AA platforms that would provide the hitting power of the WW that wouldn't be able to shrug off multiple tank rounds and strafing attacks like the wirble seems to be able to at times.

And yes, the WW needs to have the firing delay modeled in to reflect the fact that crews had to manually reload the guns' magazines, and IRL they were not all four fired full auto 100% of the time. If tanks' main guns have to have reload times built in, so should mobile AA vehicles to reflect real world operation.
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Offline mbailey

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2013, 05:48:30 PM »
Quote from: Acidrain on August 25, 2013, 04:44:01 PM
why would one choose the Osti over the Wirb...

Id take on a half dozen wirbs, before id take on an LTAR in an osti.......

Id live longer taking on the wirbs....for sure  :aok
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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2013, 05:51:15 PM »
Quote from: Lusche on August 25, 2013, 03:05:00 PM

You need me to do a single click on the stats pages for you?  :huh

If he needed more I'm sure he'd have asked someone faster than a snail.

Quote from: Acidrain on August 25, 2013, 04:44:01 PM
why would one choose the Osti over the Wirb...the Wirb has better visibility in the gunsight making it easier to track crossing targets. Lethality wise they are extremely close within  1.5k. because the Osti has poor barrel stability it offers little benefit in killing fighters that are diving on you and Bombers absorb the 37mm like its made of memory foam.

Because the Osti has more hitting power and about 1K further reach than the Wirble.  It's also more effective against tanks.  Visibility is the same as soon as you raise your head out of the turret.
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Offline Lusche

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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #13 on: August 25, 2013, 06:11:14 PM »
Remember the carnage when the Wirbel was introduced to AH? With it's much faster turret, better views and mouse pointer gunsight? 27K kills to 14K deaths, almost 2 K/D ...  :old:

Had 231 kills myself in the WW in that tour  :lol
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Re: The Wirble
« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2013, 06:35:01 PM »
Quote from: Karnak on August 25, 2013, 10:26:50 AM
This is ignoring gunners and ship gunners which don't work the same.

Ship gunners have a k/d of 16,332:1 so far this month. PERK THE SHIP GUNS!!!!!!

(But seriously, if we're looking at stats, if the Wirb were perked it would have the lowest k/d of any perked GV in the game. Of course, it might rise some DUE to being perked as people would be less likely to take one in bad situations.)
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