Desktop computer

[wpeters]

It is time for a new computer and i would like suggestions. I have been looking at gettin a AMD 10. What do you think

[Bizman]

You can get a lot of information and current opinions by reading the last couple of pages of this Hardware section.

A quick look at what has been said about the AMD 10 looks like an effort to reach Intel. Until someone has tested it, no-one can tell whether AH could use two cores or only one of the 10.

For other purposes than playing AH it looks like a good bang for a buck.

[gyrene81]

don't even consider an apu series of amd processor for gaming...all you would be getting is a souped up laptop processor. great for watching movies, surfing the web, some business apps but, no heavy games.

[wpeters]

Alright what would you recommend for the same money

[wpeters]

PRODUCT SPECS:
Hard Drive Size
2 TB
Processor Series
AMD Quad-Core A10
Operating System
Windows 8
Processor Brand
AMD
Installed Memory
8 GB
Audio
High Definition Audio with up to 7.1 surround sound capabilities
Chipset
AMD A75 FCH Chipset
Weight
15.77 lb approx.
Card Reader
Yes
Wireless Compatibility
Wireless LAN 802.11b/g/n featuring single-band 1x1
TV Tuner
No
Webcam
No
Hard Drive Detail
2TB 7200RPM Serial ATA hard drive
Graphics Type
Integrated
Graphics Memory
Up to 4196MB Total Available Graphics Memory as allocated by Windows 8
Graphics Brand/Model
AMD Radeon HD 7660D
Screen Size
not applicable
External Ports
11
Screen Type and Resolution
not applicable
Energy Compliance
n/a
Dimensions
15.35 in(L) x 6.91 in(W) x 14.48 in(H) approx.
Classification
Everyday
Processor Speed (GHz)
3.40GHz
Networking Detail
10/100/1000 Base-T Network
Optical Drive Detail
SuperMulti DVD Burner
Optical Drive Write Speed
40x max
Processor Cache Size
4MB L2 Cache
Processor Model
AMD Quad-Core A10
Installed Memory DIMMs
2
Memory Type
DDR3-1600 SDRAM


I think this looks like more than a laptop. Could you Explain?

[Bizman]

When you google for A10, the first results are about laptop APU's.

Anyway, there's a review of the A10-6800K in PCMag.com, concluding

If you care about peak CPU performance, a fast Intel dual-core or higher-end quad-core will deliver better overall performance than the AMD A10-6800K, even if the total cost is somewhat higher. If, on the other hand, you want a combined CPU+GPU with better graphics capabilities than you can buy from a low-end Intel chip right now, the A10-6800K is a solid deal.

Doesn't that sound like an Intel CPU combined with a powerful GPU would be a better choice for a serious gamer? If you're looking for a low end AH capable rig, the integrated Radeon HD 7660D might do a little better than the Intel graphics chip, though. Either way, integrated GPU's are definitely consumer laptop stuff,  capable to run Youtube videos in full HD.

[wpeters]

What would you recomned then

[Bino]

What would you recomned then

What's your budget?

[Bizman]

I must admit I can't tell what brand, version or anything would be the best, but below is some quite recent reading about the subject. As a general advice 1) think of all things you'd like to do with your computer, 2) decide how much you'd be willing to pay and 3) how long you'd like your investment to fulfil your needs. After that, find the components or computer meeting your qualification and send the specs here. The community will then give you more or less advice.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350810.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350975.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,351076.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,349738.0.html has both old and new setups
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,350721.0.html

[wpeters]

about $500

[Bizman]

$500 is not much, although prices in the US seem to be a little lower than in Europe, guess it's because of the VAT. Anyway, for $500 you can't expect a high end rig. Some brand computer beefed with a decent graphics card might be a good choice, look for Brookes comments about Dell in the links I posted. Another choice might be upgrading your existing rig. Chances are, the only reusable parts would be the case and optical drive, maybe not even those. Or, depending on what you've got, you'd "only" need a motherboard, a CPU, RAM and GPU to start with. So, if you're able to reuse your current rig, tell us its specs.

[wpeters]

well i am using a Hp Pavilion g6 with a Amd A6 processor turning out around 2.80 GHz

[wpeters]

Here is another one that i am looking at. What do you guys think

Custom PC AMD A10-6800K Richland Quad-Core,4.1GHz,8GB,1TB,Win7.DVD Burner

Case MicroATX Mini Tower

Motherboard MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Processor  AMD A10-6800K Richland 4.1GHz (4.4GHz Turbo) 100W Quad-Core (CPU + GPU)w DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 8670D

Memory Kingston HyperX XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX16C9B1RK2/8X

Storage Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"

Network Onboard , Realtek RT8111E 10/100/1000Mbps

Sound Onboard , Realtek ALC889 8-Channel
 
Power Supply Corsair Builder Series CX430 430 Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply

Optical Drives DVD Burner 24X SATA DVDRW DL

Windows 7 Professional

[Bizman]

A laptop, if I understood it correctly? So, no usable parts for a new build then.

Your second option seems to lack a video card. Add one and you'd also need a more powerful power supply.

Remember, you'd also need a monitor, keyboard and mouse. For $500 you'd only get a consumer laptop or the desktop equivalent. Nothing radically better than what you've got now.

If your budget is tight, one option could be the AH Classifieds forum or other reliable places for second hand items. A high end gaming computer from a couple of years ago might offer you just what you're looking for at a reasonable price.

[wpeters]

Here is another one that i am looking at. What do you guys think

Custom PC AMD A10-6800K Richland Quad-Core,4.1GHz,8GB,1TB,Win7.DVD Burner

Case MicroATX Mini Tower

Motherboard MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 FM2 AMD A75 (Hudson D3) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard

Processor  AMD A10-6800K Richland 4.1GHz (4.4GHz Turbo) 100W Quad-Core (CPU + GPU)w DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 8670D

Memory Kingston HyperX XMP Blu Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model KHX16C9B1RK2/8X

Storage Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"

Network Onboard , Realtek RT8111E 10/100/1000Mbps

Sound Onboard , Realtek ALC889 8-Channel
 
Power Supply Corsair Builder Series CX430 430 Watt 80 Plus Certified Power Supply

Optical Drives DVD Burner 24X SATA DVDRW DL

Windows 7 Professional

I like this one it looks like it has a good graphic card.
Right now i am running a laptop. Described around my third post in this thread