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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #75 on: October 05, 2013, 11:45:10 AM »
I have to agree, the 700 is good. Here is mine after bedding it with Devcon. The barrel is also free-floating in the stock, a must for consistent accuracy. This was on a bipod 100 meters and even the lower right group I effed up on the leftmost round (#4 in the group) by holding up against the wind (which was picking up a lot) about twice as much as needed. Conclusion, the spread is all me. :D


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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #76 on: October 05, 2013, 06:28:37 PM »
Theres something about Rem-700s that make them scarey accurate right out of the box. Everyone Ive ever shot seems to be more accurate then anything else you can buy off the shelf. All I did to mine was trigger it "I get all my rifles triggered to 3&1/2 lbs" and float it.

That's not really out of the box then is it. My howa does sub-1" @ 100m (Howa make entry level rifles for Weatherby for the US market). I had a Baikal .243 I "home floated" and got it under 1" at 100m as well (the Baikal is Russian made single shot, rebadged by Remington for the US market iirc).

These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.

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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #77 on: October 05, 2013, 06:35:10 PM »
That's not really out of the box then is it. My howa does sub-1" @ 100m (Howa make entry level rifles for Weatherby for the US market). I had a Baikal .243 I "home floated" and got it under 1" at 100m as well (the Baikal is Russian made single shot, rebadged by Remington for the US market iirc).

These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.

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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #78 on: October 06, 2013, 04:41:07 PM »

These days most rifles are good out of the box, it's the person behind it that makes the world of difference.

+1..

I laugh at all these wanna be expert rifle reviewers on youtube and such, blathering on about accuracy and free-floating and bedding the receiver and re-crowning, etc.  Truth is that a $300 Ruger American or Savage Axis, or 770, or even a $100 Mosin Nagant are more accurate out of the box (with decent ammo of course) then 90% of shooters behind them, any one of those is capable of 1-2 MOA accuracy with match grade ammo, trouble is that most shooters are not.

Bottom line is until you're better than 90% of the shooters out there, you'll get more accuracy out of practicing and improving your own skills, then you will tinkering with your rifle.

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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #79 on: October 06, 2013, 05:12:23 PM »
:rofl You nailed it.

Seriously though, What's the specs on your Yugo? I have an M70 Underfolder, one of the earlier receiver Century versions. Curious as to what you got. <S>



I didn't want to answer until I dug out her rifle and looked it over. A little history. I bought the rifle from a friend of mine back in 1990. He bought it from an FFL dealer out of the guy's home in 1987. For some reason I always thought he said it was Yugoslav. Turns out I was wrong. According to my friend who I bought it from it is actually an East German MPi-K that had teak furniture installed after the fact. The rifle actually still has the full automatic sear spring in there but the sear was removed sometime after import. Apparently this is an indicator because they were imported intact and in mixed shipments with other nation's AKs and then sometimes sloppily demilitarized here.

I'm not an AK connoisseur so I don't know what it's worth but apparently it is a "mutt" surrounded by an East German receiver. It even has a custom rear blade sight that my friend machined himself to increase accuracy. He was always good at metal working and ballistics as long as I've known him. He makes a hobby of purchasing German G43s and making them shoot-able again.

Regardless, it is a handsome rifle, the wife is very comfortable with it and she loves to shoot it more than my bolt action dragons that kick something awful.
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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #80 on: October 06, 2013, 06:34:58 PM »
I have to agree, the 700 is good. Here is mine after bedding it with Devcon. The barrel is also free-floating in the stock, a must for consistent accuracy. This was on a bipod 100 meters and even the lower right group I effed up on the leftmost round (#4 in the group) by holding up against the wind (which was picking up a lot) about twice as much as needed. Conclusion, the spread is all me. :D

Worth noting if you're shooting off a bipod make sure you're on a 'soft' surface. ie grass or dirt is good. If you're shooting off a benchrest (ie. concrete) then you will get some whacky results.

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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #81 on: October 06, 2013, 07:07:25 PM »
I didn't want to answer until I dug out her rifle and looked it over. A little history. I bought the rifle from a friend of mine back in 1990. He bought it from an FFL dealer out of the guy's home in 1987. For some reason I always thought he said it was Yugoslav. Turns out I was wrong. According to my friend who I bought it from it is actually an East German MPi-K that had teak furniture installed after the fact. The rifle actually still has the full automatic sear spring in there but the sear was removed sometime after import. Apparently this is an indicator because they were imported intact and in mixed shipments with other nation's AKs and then sometimes sloppily demilitarized here.

I'm not an AK connoisseur so I don't know what it's worth but apparently it is a "mutt" surrounded by an East German receiver. It even has a custom rear blade sight that my friend machined himself to increase accuracy. He was always good at metal working and ballistics as long as I've known him. He makes a hobby of purchasing German G43s and making them shoot-able again.

Regardless, it is a handsome rifle, the wife is very comfortable with it and she loves to shoot it more than my bolt action dragons that kick something awful.

How bout some pics? East German receiver? Let's see it. <S>
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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #82 on: October 07, 2013, 02:59:11 PM »
wellllll you know? it's like the "stock" mustang or camaro with a tune. not really stock anymore, lolololol

No but the two my kid has and the one I sold are or were. A lot of my friends have them. Ive never seen a Lemon out of the box 700.
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Re: bought my first gun
« Reply #83 on: October 07, 2013, 03:34:30 PM »
Worth noting if you're shooting off a bipod make sure you're on a 'soft' surface. ie grass or dirt is good. If you're shooting off a benchrest (ie. concrete) then you will get some whacky results.

I always shoot off of dirt, in the dirt is the preferred stance.  :D

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