Author Topic: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row  (Read 1807 times)

Offline Viper61

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7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« on: October 07, 2013, 09:15:17 AM »
I maybe wrong on my count and look at the logs and points but it appears to me that the ALLIES has lost the last 7 frames across 3 different scenario's.  I know the points haven't been posted for this Frame 01 yet but a look at the logs shows the following:

ALLIES:
77 fighters destroyed = +385
5 destroyed hangers = +125
AXIS:
76 fighters destroyed = +380
26 Bombers downed = +650

By my count and it may be a little off - NET AXIS Victory frame 01 +520 points - NOT OFFICAL , my count.

CM's really enjoy the FSO and what you all due for free and give of your time.  However changes are needed from frame to frame which I don't think we see enough of, or not course enough changes to really change the outcome.  Even if the changes resulted in the other side having a lopsided Frame victory.  Even with that the sides are again even going into Frame 3.  And a middle balance point can probably be estimated.  I understand the dynamics of the game from squad show up to the squads themselves and plans.  And not everything can be accounted for and I get that.
 
Main issue in this Scenario in my opinion:  In this scenario the point value of the bombers to hangers (even at 25 points each) means that a good ALLIED planner isn't going to risk more than 1 bomber per hanger (possible target).  Otherwise you find yourself risking 50 or 75 points to net 25 which isn't a good plan if are in it to win it.  More importantly only a small number or percentage of ALLIED planes can destroy a Hanger (the Bombers).  Where as every AXIS Fighter has the capability to destroy a Bomber that is worth the same as a Hanger.  Don't know if that was intent in this scenario or not, that's the out come.  Also the high bomber point value for the AXIS side "might" drive a AXIS pilot to make nearly suicidal attacks into a bomber formation and or not be concerned with ramming.  After all his fighter is only worth 5 points.  Which happened to 2 of the 4, 325th VFG bombers in Frame 01.  Ramming happens and we have all had it happen and been a part of it.  Just saying a high percentage to us in one frame.

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 09:17:53 AM »
Is it possible that the Axis pilots were simply really, really, really good?
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 09:42:53 AM »
VF-17 backing dedicated Axis for quite awhile there.  ;)

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 02:29:23 PM »
Is it possible that the Axis pilots were simply really, really, really good?
More than likely.

It's always harder to attack. Defence has it's advantages especially in a time sensitive scenario. I can't remember the last time fuel was even a factor. Most of the Allies die within the first few minutes of the engagement.
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 03:42:57 PM »
Most of the Allies die within the first few minutes of the engagement.

Not remembering that being the case the last F4FvsA6M FSO.  ;)

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2013, 08:27:23 PM »
Is it possible that the Axis pilots were simply really, really, really good?

With all due respects Von, the majority of them should be.........  Just calling it like I see it sir.

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2013, 09:46:46 PM »
I am sure the ZEKE is able to KILL a B-24......  But we only got 1 pass as the 56th fighter group bounced us NO BOMBERS WERE KILLED DURING THE MAKING OF THIS FILM    :x
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2013, 09:51:10 PM »
With all due respects Von, the majority of them should be.........  Just calling it like I see it sir.

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There are some dedicated Luft squads out there, not mentioning any names, that make their bread and butter by buff killing and/or plowing the road for their own bombers  :devil
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2013, 09:53:23 PM »
VF-17 backing dedicated Axis for quite awhile there.  ;)
I was wondering why there were less Allied deaths the last few FSOs :)
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2013, 09:56:45 PM »
I was wondering why there were less Allied kills the last few FSOs :)

Fixed.  :D  ;)  :cheers:  :salute

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2013, 10:00:30 PM »
VF-17 backing dedicated Axis for quite awhile there.  ;)

Were you backing them or just hiding behind them?  :P

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 10:02:24 PM »
Were you backing them or just hiding behind them?  :P

Being chased by them (including VF-17) in BoB.  :D

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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 10:07:30 PM »
Fixed.  :D  ;)  :cheers:  :salute
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 10:09:26 PM »
Many reasons contribute as to why axis always win. Maybe a 500 point handicap is in order for the Allies? The problem is the people that fly axis. We are good and very good when in our preferred aircraft.

Seemed too harsh.
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Re: 7 AXIS frame wins in a row
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 09:48:30 AM »
Many reasons contribute as to why axis always win. Maybe a 500 point handicap is in order for the Allies? The problem is the people that fly axis. We are good and very good when in our preferred aircraft.

Seemed too harsh.


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