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Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« on: October 15, 2013, 09:15:52 PM »
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story?id=20576121

All I can say is wtf...

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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 11:03:02 PM »
Helping someone in the commission of a crime?

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Remember this next time an under age drunk asks you for a ride home.
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 11:39:18 PM »
Helping someone in the commission of a crime?

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Remember this next time an under age drunk asks you for a ride home.
How did this "crime" affect you, or society in general?
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2013, 11:46:33 PM »
Helping someone in the commission of a crime?

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Remember this next time an under age drunk asks you for a ride home.

While I don't condone underage drinking. I think that she shouldn't have been punished considering she didn't drink, nor was there when her friend drank anyways. She was just trying to help her friend get home safely. But I can't change your opinion on the matter, so  :cheers:

Personally, even though she got punished for doing a 'good deed'. I would rather read an article like that, even though she got punished (but the school got flak for it, so +1 on that), than reading an article of an underage drinker found dead due to a motor vehicle accident (or getting ran over).

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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2013, 11:52:50 PM »
Helping someone in the commission of a crime?

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Remember this next time an under age drunk asks you for a ride home.

Giving an underage drunk a ride is not a crime. 
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2013, 11:56:15 PM »
Giving an underage drunk a ride is not a crime. 

Agreed. It's a service to the community, if one thinks about it logically.

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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 12:01:24 AM »
Crap I've been breaking the law when I get the call at 3AM that another underage Soldier needed a ride home to the barracks after getting to drunk at a party...... :bolt:
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 12:13:45 AM »
School administrators make stupid decisions all the time.
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 12:22:47 AM »
School administrators make stupid decisions all the time.


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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2013, 02:23:34 AM »
Helping someone in the commission of a crime?

Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

Remember this next time an under age drunk asks you for a ride home.

Not a crime.

Neither is being drunk.  Possessing alcohol or buying or selling alcohol to a minor is.  I don't know what Gestapo state you may live in but come on what's wrong with helping out a friend?
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2013, 05:50:15 AM »
I'm very curious what time she got off work and what time her friend's parents expected her home.  This story is very one-sided and I'm not sure I buy it.

I don't know where she works but I'd imagine a place that employs a high school kid is going to close shop at an hour that would make it a pretty early end to the party for her and her friend (is her friend a complete lush that plans on going home that drunk that early to her still-awake parents?)

I think what really happened here is she showed up late to the party, not to pick up a friend and immediately leave, but to party (not necessarily drink).  The police showed up, her school was going to crack down on athletes near booze, so she says she was only there to pick up a friend, immediately leave, and do a good deed. 

This was either the truth, or just a smart story, but regardless she played her card well and the school should rethink its decision because it will have unintended consequences (it does tend to promote drinking and driving).
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2013, 06:42:34 AM »
After reading that story, I definitely have the feel something is missing there...
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2013, 08:00:27 AM »
According to the story at least, for what thats worth, all she's dealing with is a school suspension from her ball games for 5 games. She wasnt arrested. She isnt in legal trouble. She committed no crimes. She just got in the way of educators waving their fingers trying to act Holier then the one next to them.

I guess things have changed since the '70s. :uhoh
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2013, 08:36:29 AM »
What's next? Charging the designated driver for DUI?  :aok
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Re: Teen punished for helping drunk friend
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2013, 08:37:58 AM »
Before I can really have an opinion I need to know more than what is written in that article, such as:

How many minutes with regard to "Minutes after Cox showed up at the party to give her friend a lift home, police showed up, according to the Cox family's attorney, Wendy Murphy."  5?  10?  30?  45?

If she was there for any longer than just to "pick up a drunk friend", she was attending the party.  If one's purpose is to be a taxi-cab, there would have been no need to go inside, at all.

Also, the misleading vividness fallacy evident in statements such as: "By punishing Erin Cox, the North Andover School District sends a contrary and very dangerous message -- that young people are better off letting their friends drive drunk," Murphy said in a statement to ABC News." are completely ridiculous.  

Some could also say that picking her friend up to give her a ride, when intoxicated, sends a message that it is OK to drink when underage, as long as you have a sober friend to call, which is a misleading vividness fallacy of equally ridiculous proportions

Perhaps the zero-tolerance rule is ridiculous.  Apparently, the school does not want their athletes drinking underage or being near a situation where alcohol is being consumed by underage persons.  Fair enough, it is their school, they can make the rules.  The problem is that this young volleyball player agreed to the terms when deciding to play volleyball at this school.

Her friend had other options such as:  don't drink, call a parent, call a cab , possible spend the night, call a different friend, etc.  This young lady could have called someone else, that didn't play volleyball, to pick her friend up.  There were other options available, I refuse to believe that there weren't.
We are also assuming that her friend actually drove to that party...

As others have said, there is more to the story than is told in that article.
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