Author Topic: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?  (Read 2003 times)

Offline DREDIOCK

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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 10:19:53 AM »
Ok, life is so very unfair to men and therefore we shouldn't donate to save boobies.  Gotcha.

I have no problems donating for cancer research in general. What I have a problem with is all the hoopla made for one specific type of cancer because it primarily effects one specific gender. In this case its sexist to the point where you might as well say a womans life is more valuable then a mans. And if you want to make a big deal over womans cancers. Fine. But if your going to do that. Then the same huge deal should be made over mens cancers as well. Particularly when they occur at roughly the same rate and have roughly the same mortality rate.

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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 10:22:30 AM »
we should donate to cancer research after all it also helps men.  however I never participate in those "pink walk for the cure" scams.  as that's what they are, I also never buy products that make a lot of money and send a few pennies to cancer research.  and then again after all the billions of dollars we have donated if some company finds "a cure" guess what they own the patent and will make billions of dollars in profits.

so sometimes I wonder why we should donate money?.  the companies that sponsor the "walk for the cure" type and those that will send a few pennies if you buy their products make money, the company that finds a cure will make money even if they used money we donated.

but to be fair dredlock, I paid 30 bucks so have a colonoscopy done, they removed 2 nods that were pre-cancerous.  second time it happens in 15 years.  my gf also pays 30 bucks to have mammograms done.  I guess it all depends on your insurance.


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Its not the matter of insurance. It the matter of the hoopla thats made for fund raising and awareness. sure you see some overtures mad to mens cancers. But in comparison to the whole pink thing. tharts all they are is overtures, And done nowhere near to the same scope or scale
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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 10:26:38 AM »
The money they raised wasn't accepted by the organization. Sadly but they are trying to find a foundation that will.


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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 10:41:21 AM »
My wife did not think that was funny. And sadly, I cannot help raise money next year either. I do want to nominate these guys for the Nobel Prize in Peace. Brilliance cannot go without acknowledgement.

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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2013, 11:08:56 AM »
Its not the matter of insurance. It the matter of the hoopla thats made for fund raising and awareness. sure you see some overtures mad to mens cancers. But in comparison to the whole pink thing. tharts all they are is overtures, And done nowhere near to the same scope or scale

the whole pink thing is a scam.  companies sponsoring this events do it because it brings them a lot of money.  for example look at this sponsor

https://savelidstosavelives.com/desktop/

you save the lid of each yoplait yougur and they send 10 cents to "susan g komen" foundation.  so let's say you buy 10 and spend 9 dollars and the foundation gets 1 dollar.  wouldnt it be better if you wrote a check and got rid of the scam as gen mills is making millions just by being "sponsors"


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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2013, 11:16:20 AM »
Dred, nobody has many any sudden rules that says donate to this cancer research or that cancer research.

In this case a bunch of women got togther and started a movement about an issue that directly affects them.  They were very sucessful and now large corporations are involved and they have raised a large amount of awareness about the disease.

You are perfectly able to do the same, it is a free country.  No one is forcing you to donate anything but equally noone is saying men's issues are less than women's...the women just got off their backsides and did something.

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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2013, 06:33:23 PM »
how companies make money out of people's misery and how it got started.   it's good for marketing and the bottom line for some companies as it adds hundreds of millions of dollars, some brilliant marketting strategy if you ask me and the costs are minimal.  you could have saved yourself a lot of money and perhaps donate more if you just wrote a check to a charity instead of buying some stuff just because "a portion" goes to charity.  the "walk for the cure" is a prime example of how corporate sponsors make a ton of money off of people's good will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cause_marketing


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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2013, 04:09:08 PM »
 I heard today that the donation money wasn't excepted and the check was returned.

   Supposedly, the cancer society didn't approve of the method and got several complaints..... :rolleyes:

  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it!  My wife is a survivor and I told her of the story,showed her the vid and she laughed and said good for them!

  Today we both heard that the donation was returned and she was thoroughly disgusted that the cancer society would do such a thing. Granted it was an unusual approach to raising funds but I didn't see any objections,of course I know they wouldn't show the women who said NO but the ones who agreed did so only because of the cause.....The women who allowed it must be upset and rightfully so!


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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2013, 07:50:34 PM »
The money they raised wasn't accepted by the organization. Sadly but they are trying to find a foundation that will.



I heard today that the donation money wasn't excepted and the check was returned.

   Supposedly, the cancer society didn't approve of the method and got several complaints..... :rolleyes:

  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it!  My wife is a survivor and I told her of the story,showed her the vid and she laughed and said good for them!

  Today we both heard that the donation was returned and she was thoroughly disgusted that the cancer society would do such a thing. Granted it was an unusual approach to raising funds but I didn't see any objections,of course I know they wouldn't show the women who said NO but the ones who agreed did so only because of the cause.....The women who allowed it must be upset and rightfully so!


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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2013, 12:15:03 AM »
My grandmother (Byte's mother) died on the 10th of this month from a rare form of cancer.  It doesn't have to be breast cancer, and I could care less how the money gets there to find new ways to stop the disease.  The most caring person I've ever known was ravaged by something that she didn't deserve.  Do what you can, and if you can't do anything monetarily, just be there for the people that are dealing with this.  It's heartbreaking, awful, unfair, but it's reality.  Even just volunteering at a hospice and giving someone a hug makes a difference.  Our hospice nurse was an angel, and made this situation much more manageable for the entire family. 
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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2013, 12:42:11 AM »
Breast cancer is something a woman should never have to go through  no woman
As for men it can happen to them as well, any type of cancer is not anything to make fun about. Comparing cancers and comparing moneywise is total waste of time. And i pray noone gets it enemy or not.
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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2013, 07:58:04 AM »
The problem is the disproportionate money sent to breast cancer charities. My grand mother died of breast cancer and it sucks . But Prostate cancer in the US alone effects as many men as breast cancer but receives only 10% of the funding . This means that there is almost no national screening programs for a cancer that can quickly spread to the colon , stomach , testicles and rectum .  It can quickly change from a type 1 cancer (easier to treat and have a 70% chance of living longer  than 5 years ) to a type 4 (less than 30% chance of living 18 months) . Yet it's poo pooed by feminists , general public as a minor thing . 

The same can be said of cervical cancer . While only one type of cancer gets the lime light overs others that  have a very fast effect on peoples well being many sufferers will be denied treatment that they deserve as human beings .  It's the same reason I've always hated Livestrong foundation. 
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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #28 on: October 24, 2013, 09:03:04 AM »
   Charities are Big Business and take in loads of cash. Less so in economic downturns but still on average only 10% goes to the actual cause. The rest to administrative fees.  :rolleyes:

   I don't trust the Red Cross after they sought ( and advertised) donations for 911 victims only to announce they will do what they want with the billions they gathered.

   There are very few that give all the money away having staff that donates their time.  :aok
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Re: Why didn't we think of this for Breast Cancer Awareness?
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2013, 09:04:36 AM »
  I watched the video and it didn't look like any of the women complained,infact some seemed to enjoy it! 


Still could have been a lot of women refusing that lil stunt and/or complaining, they just didn't show them. ;)
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