AMD Radeon R9 290X

[MrRiplEy[H]]

wrong I said newegg.  and the brick and mortar store is about 30 miles from where I live.  I order then go pick it up there.

So as you admitted it's off the shelves. End of story.

[Skuzzy]

Awesome explanation. Please save me from theese in the future.

Im waiting on Skuzzy's answer, how could someone know, who is playing on a 3-way system and who isnt.

The game asks players if it is ok to send in the hardware info about the computer.  Nothing nefarious about it.  It is the player choice.

[Debrody]

The game asks players if it is ok to send in the hardware info about the computer.  Nothing nefarious about it.  It is the player choice.

Wasnt suspicious at all, just forgot about that in-game question. Im sorry if i sounded otherwise - blame my poor english.

[guncrasher]

And how much was a 5850 at the time you got the first 465? 

dont know, I dont really care much for amd.  at the time when I got the 465, there was still that discussion about amd not playing nice with aces high and amd worked better with amd cpu and mobo.

So as you admitted it's off the shelves. End of story.

it is still in the shelves and selling.  I can drive about 6 miles from my house and buy a copy if I needed one.  well not right now since it's 8:20 and the store doesnt open until 10 am or I can order from newegg this morning and pick it up after 3 pm if I wasnt working since the will-call store is near where my kids live.


semp

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I would wait for other vendors to exploit AMD reference designed board with better cooled board, its just a matter of time.
Swedish testers @ sweclockers thought it was a nice board with good value, with the exception of 2 things: cooling and the quiet option that reduced the frame-rates by 10%.

They recommend buyers to wait for better cooling and stay away from the quiet option. 

[BoilerDown]

Now that Nvidia has been forced to lower prices, both AMD and Nvidia are equal (IMO) on a price performance basis pretty much from top to bottom in their respective lineups (Titan doesn't count, its for researchers, not for gamers, not any more anyways).

So looking at beyond price and performance, Nvidia now has the better bundles if that matters to you (it doesn't matter to me, I don't care about those games).  And then there's the future promised features, the only important ones being Mantle and G-Sync.  I am a complete skeptic on Mantle, I think it'll be the next Glide, and unlikely that it will result in any meaningful difference in any game I'm going to play.  But G-Sync will be awesome for every single game no matter who makes it.  I'm betting on G-Sync, and if I were to upgrade my video card today, I would choose Nvidia, no question about it.  Its a trump card for Nvidia and you can't even argue that their cards are overpriced any more, the decision is easy.

[Chalenge]

I think researchers are using Quadro cards and Kepler based secondary accelerators, like the Tesla K20 (in other words, Maximus). Next gen game developers and movie makers do also. I don't think AMD even has a pony in that race.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I think researchers are using Quadro cards and Kepler based secondary accelerators, like the Tesla K20 (in other words, Maximus). Next gen game developers and movie makers do also. I don't think AMD even has a pony in that race.

Yep, that's why Nvidia can continue to overprice those products freely.

[Debrody]

dont know, I dont really care much for amd.  at the time when I got the 465, there was still that discussion about amd not playing nice with aces high and amd worked better with amd cpu and mobo.

True, since the C2D era, the AMD CPUs are clearly inferior. But but but.... its about GPUs... Intel =/= NVidia... The statement that an AMD GPU will work better with an AMD CPU is utter BS.
Youre the victim of the manipulation.

This is coming from an AMD fanboi who is just building an i5 2500K - 560Ti system for his brother (el cheapo yet fast products) 

[guncrasher]

True, since the C2D era, the AMD CPUs are clearly inferior. But but but.... its about GPUs... Intel =/= NVidia... The statement that an AMD GPU will work better with an AMD CPU is utter BS.
Youre the victim of the manipulation.

This is coming from an AMD fanboi who is just building an i5 2500K - 560Ti system for his brother (el cheapo yet fast products) 

this is coming from el cheapoeast who's built a 2500k 2 years ago and bought a 3rd monitor buy refilling water bottles at home.  no amd, as based on the info I had available at the time, nvidia was better.  not saying I am right or wrong, but just saying based on the info I had at the time, i felt nvidia was better.

would I buy amd today? nope, nvidia has served me well and hasnt failed me yet. now if you are talking about me buying evga?  depends on the price now as evga changed their warranty and that's the reason I paid extra for it.

semp

[BoilerDown]

This just in: AMD's Radeon R9 290 (no X) is out now, at $399 with Titan-like performance just below that of the 290X.

This is where the best bang per buck is at the moment, no doubt about it.  I like Nvidia, but AMD just knocked one out of the park based on the price/performance:

http://hardocp.com/article/2013/11/04/amd_radeon_r9_290_video_card_review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7481/the-amd-radeon-r9-290-review

Titan performance at 40% of the price.  That's a hell of a thing.  The GTX780 all of the sudden looks very overpriced and if you get anything but AMD from $299 to $599, you're doing it wrong, or you really really want G-Sync.  I'm not looking to upgrade now, but if I was, the 290 would be very tempting.

[SirNuke]

I read reports saying that the retail 290's perform less than the review cards :

[Debrody]

I read reports saying that the retail 290's perform less than the review cards :

I dont think that there is any difference between the chips. Most of the tests are made on a test pad, not in an actual case. In a product what is running really hot and has a BIOS that reduces the frequency when its overheating, putting it into a closed case really can hurt the performance.

The factory cooling on theese chips is just rubbish, really holding this, otherwise great product back. Im expecting an 5-10% performance gain on the 290x with some decent radiator applicated on it.

A non-reference cooled 290x vs the 780ti, now thats the match    Wondering how it is going to drop the prices, too. 290x for like 500, 780ti with about the same performance for 500, 780 for 450, and so...

yeah, i know, i just keep dreaming 

[Bruv119]

so what is the nerd bottom line then?

worth it or not?   Zack can you buy one and send me your old card?    

[SirNuke]

I'd wait for the non reference cards, like an ASUS direct CU 290. I think we'll see great cards with that chip.