Ta-152 fuel burn rate

[jeffdn]

Hi Skuzzy et. al.,

The Ta-152, when taken over 45,000ft, has a consistent burn rate of 60GPH. I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate. It is possible to up a Ta-152 with 100% fuel and a drop tank, climb to that altitude, and then, with WEP enabled, still have over three hours of flying time remaining. Great for bomber hunting, but a bit of an unfair advantage in fuel duration, methinks.



jeff

[JOACH1M]

Hi Skuzzy et. al.,

The Ta-152, when taken over 45,000ft, has a consistent burn rate of 60GPH. I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate. It is possible to up a Ta-152 with 100% fuel and a drop tank, climb to that altitude, and then, with WEP enabled, still have over three hours of flying time remaining. Great for bomber hunting, but a bit of an unfair advantage in fuel duration, methinks.



jeff

what the hell are you doing with your gaming life that makes you want to go that high? 

Waste.

[jeffdn]

what the hell are you doing with your gaming life that makes you want to go that high? 

Waste.

Thank you for your prejudgment and assumptions. I discovered this on accident, by taking off and walking away from the computer while I got to altitude, and then forgetting that I'd taken off. I came back to a very, very high airplane with a low burn rate. I've been that high precisely once in a Ta-152.

[morfiend]

Hi Skuzzy et. al.,

The Ta-152, when taken over 45,000ft, has a consistent burn rate of 60GPH. I'm pretty sure this is inaccurate. It is possible to up a Ta-152 with 100% fuel and a drop tank, climb to that altitude, and then, with WEP enabled, still have over three hours of flying time remaining. Great for bomber hunting, but a bit of an unfair advantage in fuel duration, methinks.



jeff

  Jeff,


  as the Aircraft climbs the air gets thinner and the fuel mixture must be leaned out or you would flood the engine. This reduces the GPH consumption,so A/C will see a reduce fuel consumption when you apply WEP because they use an additive.


  If we had engine management you would see that the mixture would need to be adjusted as you climbed to alt or dove to the deck.


   

[jeffdn]

  Jeff,


  as the Aircraft climbs the air gets thinner and the fuel mixture must be leaned out or you would flood the engine. This reduces the GPH consumption,so A/C will see a reduce fuel consumption when you apply WEP because they use an additive.


  If we had engine management you would see that the mixture would need to be adjusted as you climbed to alt or dove to the deck.


   

Hey morf,

Hope you're well.

Yep, I understand that bit. The GPH drops very sharply and at exactly 45,000 feet. Above that it's a couple hundred gallons per hour, right up to 44,999 ft, but right at 45,000 it drops to 60 and doesn't change. Thanks for the info though!

[morfiend]

 Jeff,

  I meant to say some aircraft,not so A/C!

 IIRC the 152 has a 3 stage blower,it might be a 2 speed 3 stage unit but I'm going off memory.

  Look at the ATA setting at that alt,I bet it's much lower than say at 25K. Most planes cant fly in that rare air but even the P47 will show you reduced MAP and fuel consumption when you fly at those alts.

  I'm sure if you search you can find fuel comsumption rates for the Jumo 213E.




   

[jeffdn]

Jeff,

  I meant to say some aircraft,not so A/C!

 IIRC the 152 has a 3 stage blower,it might be a 2 speed 3 stage unit but I'm going off memory.

  Look at the ATA setting at that alt,I bet it's much lower than say at 25K. Most planes cant fly in that rare air but even the P47 will show you reduced MAP and fuel consumption when you fly at those alts.

  I'm sure if you search you can find fuel comsumption rates for the Jumo 213E.




    

You're right about that. I'll check it out, and see what I can find.

[icepac]

I guess HTC doesn't need to model performance where a plane really never historically flew so it's anybody's guess how they will perform.

I prefer these small errors to a harsh cutoff determined by altitude and have noticed that planes that drop fuel consumption at high altitudes also have engine power reduction related to less fuel used.

I do think HTC needs to address the ta152's ability to enter a loop at unbelievably low speeds and come over the top at 40mph with full control as well as the fact that some planes will windmill the propeller with engine off way below the speed at which they would  normally stop.

I just don't see a R2800 being able to windmill down to 39mph......maybe 50.