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Offline macleod01

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2013, 12:20:58 PM »
I agree Dolby and Ack Ack.

There are many other player made movies that really show off the game in a better light. The one that sticks in my mind is 'The Kinslayer'. I can't remember who made it, but it was sensational. Ok, so there were no furballs or CV's in it, and it was a DA fight, but the music, the shots, the angles and everything in it would really have got people interested.

There are several others I can think of but can't remember the name of, so although I applaud the creators getting the name back out there, I feel they could have asked the player base to come up with a trailer.

Still, good work Skuzzy!
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2013, 12:23:43 PM »
I kind of have to agree.  I wasn't really impressed, the game really looked dated in that trailer.  If I was a new customer and had seen that trailer and one from WT, I would be fare more inclined to go WT than AH. 

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I was actually embarassed for HTC while watching the trailer. It just looks awful.

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2013, 12:27:11 PM »
I commented exactly how the trailer made me feel, if that's not helping I really don't know what would be... Perhaps you would prefer me to lie?

Your comment seems to be missing both suggestion and offer of assistance. I've seen
your films. You can do more than merely criticize. Did you fail to grasp that?  

I would gladly both take advantage of and applaud your efforts to add a film tutoring
thread. I suspect Skuzzy would, as well.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2013, 12:29:28 PM by Arlo »

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #33 on: November 05, 2013, 12:28:54 PM »
WT is going to lose customers :)


Very much doubt that.  :(
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #34 on: November 05, 2013, 12:31:04 PM »

WT is going to lose customers :)


I think the actual focus is blurred. I doubt this is as much about WT
losing customers as it is AH gaining them.

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #35 on: November 05, 2013, 12:32:19 PM »
I too think more could have been done to show a larger picture of what AH has to offer.  

Maybe rocket and strafing attack on a town by a Mossi Mk IV?  A gun run vs a tank by an IL-2?  Perhaps a few rounds outbound from a Panther, King Tiger, or M18?  How about an F6F and a A6M5 knife fighting at 10,000 ft?  A P51D and a 190A-8 jockeying for position at 20,000 ft? A Spitfire diving in on a He111?  The Me410 attacking bombers was nice though.      

All in all, it is good for HTC to be put in front of prospective players.  I'm glad they did, lets hope more players tune in.      
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #36 on: November 05, 2013, 12:34:43 PM »
The movie was alright but I feel the hit sprites diminished it.

I'd really like to see them updated eventually.
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2013, 12:39:01 PM »
The movie was alright but I feel the hit sprites diminished it.

I'd really like to see them updated eventually.

hit sprites +1, and the strafing in the P47 showed very much how bad the ground textures are

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2013, 12:48:25 PM »
Your comment seems to be missing both suggestion and offer of assistance. I've seen
your films. You can do more than merely criticize. Did you fail to grasp that?  

I would gladly both take advantage of and applaud your efforts to add a film tutoring
thread. I suspect Skuzzy would, as well.

HTC know what they are doing and have been doing what they do for many many years. They know, far better than I will ever know, what they need to do and what they will do.
I've been a part of film making for only 3 years, It was strongly suggested I find a way to become a positive contributor to this forum and stop making declarations about things I do not have knowledge about.
The closest positive I thought about the trailer is that it was disappointingly uninspiring. With this feedback they not only have an opinion, they now know that trailers are supposed to inspire people to play.
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2013, 12:52:10 PM »
Even though I know some things need addressed or added at some point. Perhaps it would be beneficial for HTC to update some of their visuals. Like Delirium's comment on hit sprites.

I know HTC put work going through and watching the various videos that were submitted and took time to make this. But I say that it doesn't describe HTC enough, and in some spots actually show the weaker side of AH (like SirNukes mentioning of land textures).

It is just my opinion, if you don't like it, brush it off. But this is what I was thinking of.

Icons off, best graphics possible up.  Some kills from various planes on bombers. Then switch to the bombers perspective and see fighters get shot down.  Show bombers hitting their target.

Switch to anti-GV planes (il2, ju87s) strafing tanks (show tank getting blown up).   Anti-air shooting at strafers perhaps getting a few.  Show tank vs tank combat.

Switch to a CV battle, showing 8inch firing on a town (and actually hitting something  :t ) .

Then have it say something like..  "We have over *number here* planes and *number here* vehicles.  (while the background changes out to many of the well-known planes of all nationalities ).

Then it ends with the aces high logo.



I think the trailer was sort of short, and didn't do enough justice for AH.

Perhaps the above trailer would be 2-3 mins long?  Sort of an 'extended trailer' so to speak.


Just my humble opinion, criticize how you like.

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2013, 01:03:17 PM »
My apologies, Dolb. Great feedback.

Carry on.  :D :salute


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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2013, 01:10:35 PM »
If you watch it at YouTube (as opposed to SimHQ), the 2 comments so far allude to fond memories of the "good old days".
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #42 on: November 05, 2013, 01:14:51 PM »

It would be nice for you to take your 3 years of experience and offer
it up for more than your own promotion but hey .... yay Dolby.

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You're right, it would be nice wouldn't it.
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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #43 on: November 05, 2013, 01:48:23 PM »
Game video production is quite difficult, especially when you consider the film viewer we have. The hit sprites look better ingame than in the film viewer.
Actually I think it would be better to use game footage saved over HDMI capture for that promotional video.

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Re: Thats what Skuzzy was working on!
« Reply #44 on: November 05, 2013, 01:52:41 PM »
at 1:27 you can see the target plane actually warping