Author Topic: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go  (Read 3423 times)

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2013, 09:27:15 AM »
really? you seriously don't get the idea behind ground forces? i get it, 2 dimensional battle takes less effort...easier to win the war.  :rolleyes:

I couldn't care less about winning the war I just want a fight. I am tired of shooting M3's and dodging AAA instead of actually fighting people in aircraft.

So how about instead of removing all GV's we perk the wirble and remove field supplies from the M3.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #31 on: November 12, 2013, 09:27:39 AM »
I cannot see the logic that M3 resupply makes the hordes bigger.   :headscratch:


At City 100% and a working GV spawn to the town, it does (Town downtime 30mins, -10mins per single supply drop). If M3s are able running, you only have a very short time frame to capture and it takes much more effort in short time.


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Let me add that the overall net effect on the rate base capture has still been negligible. While it is more difficult to capture towns at City=100% under the 'new' strat system introduced in 2012, it has also become easier whent he City has been hit considerably.
Both effects seem to even things out overall, as the rate of base captures has not changed significantly compared to pre- August 2012.

The one thing that did have a tremendous impact was the introduction of the new towns itself.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #32 on: November 12, 2013, 09:38:39 AM »
Two cents from a newcomer:

I think that GVs and the like enhance the Combat Simulation experience.  Wars are not just fought in the air (well, this one wasn't), and planes didn't just have to worry about other planes.  Ground units are a part of war and combat; there's no escaping that fact.  I get that dog-fights are the biggest part of the draw to AHII, but it seems that it's simply common frustration and lack of patience that's leading the "NO MOAR M3s" crowd.

Again, just MHO.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #33 on: November 12, 2013, 09:41:17 AM »

At City 100% and a working GV spawn to the town, it does (Town downtime 30mins, -10mins per single supply drop). If M3s are able running, you only have a very short time frame to capture and it takes much more effort in short time.

Well yeah, if you don't take the time to send one or more guys to take out the surrounding VH's.  Not that I ever do it anymore, but to me, taking bases is more fun when there has to be actual planning, timing, and execution instead of a straight smash and grab.  I guess timing the drop of the surrounding VH's with that of the actual base take is more than people want to get involved with.  
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2013, 10:08:00 AM »
Two cents from a newcomer:

I think that GVs and the like enhance the Combat Simulation experience.  Wars are not just fought in the air (well, this one wasn't), and planes didn't just have to worry about other planes.  Ground units are a part of war and combat; there's no escaping that fact.  I get that dog-fights are the biggest part of the draw to AHII, but it seems that it's simply common frustration and lack of patience that's leading the "NO MOAR M3s" crowd.

Again, just MHO.

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You are perfectly correct.  Best way to take a base is with both air and ground..          Take Higheyes Blitz Mission..   It is one of the best ways to take a base..   A group of 20gvs can take a base no problem even if ords are up..    10 Wirbs   8 tanks and two M3s.,.             Add a couple fighters for a cap and ack killing in the town and the base is yours within 10 min.. If they want to resup town there are tanks there willing to get the kill....               Tanking a town in gvs is much more enjoyable and relistic than from the air in my books
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2013, 10:19:52 AM »
Two cents from a newcomer:

I think that GVs and the like enhance the Combat Simulation experience.  Wars are not just fought in the air (well, this one wasn't), and planes didn't just have to worry about other planes.  Ground units are a part of war and combat; there's no escaping that fact.  I get that dog-fights are the biggest part of the draw to AHII, but it seems that it's simply common frustration and lack of patience that's leading the "NO MOAR M3s" crowd.

Again, just MHO.

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Well said, Slide! I have very little problems finding an A2A fight, if that's what I want.  And while the air combat in AH is certainly what brought me into the game during its Beta (there weren't any GV's then), it was the promise (and eventual delivery) of a combined arms combat experience that kept me hooked.  Besides, M3's are easy kills, and I take great pleasure in pouncing on them.  If they're smart enough to bring a Wirb with them, then good on them. Of course, that slows the M3 down if they want to stay close to their shepherds, making the resupply effort less effective.  Every tactic has a cost; tit for tat.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #36 on: November 12, 2013, 10:30:27 AM »
Only time I ever run a resup mission in a attempt to save the base is when the aircap is so overwhelming you cant get off the run way. I rarely make it to the town with a M3 because they are smart enough to look for m3s.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #37 on: November 12, 2013, 10:42:54 AM »
I couldn't care less about winning the war I just want a fight. I am tired of shooting M3's and dodging AAA instead of actually fighting people in aircraft.
change the behaviors of the clowns in the air whose best tricks are ho, pick, gang and run...that will improve the game more than trying to get rid of the ground pounders.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2013, 11:05:09 AM »
change the behaviors of the clowns in the air whose best tricks are ho, pick, gang and run...that will improve the game more than trying to get rid of the ground pounders.

GVers and the basetaking crowd bored most of the good sticks into leaving. Maybe if we make the game appealing to them again they will come back.
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #39 on: November 12, 2013, 12:20:45 PM »
Has anyone though to take 2 members of the horde and destroy the barracks at the adjacent base(s)?  A vehicle base can have the barracks down in 2 passes.  Ditto with a small airfield.  A medium base takes usually 3 passes, and I've not ever attempted a large airfield on my own yet.

It appears these players feel it's easier to whine about it then actually do anything about it.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #40 on: November 12, 2013, 12:23:49 PM »
I couldn't care less about winning the war I just want a fight. I am tired of shooting M3's and dodging AAA instead of actually fighting people in aircraft.

So how about instead of removing all GV's we perk the wirble and remove field supplies from the M3.

If you are unable to find a fight, you're just not looking hard enough or not looking period.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 12:25:02 PM »
Or just disable GV's and watch the game become 500 times better overnight.

Then watch membership drop exponentially as quick.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 12:29:34 PM »
Then watch membership drop exponentially as quick.

It already has. :)
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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2013, 12:58:54 PM »
This forum is confusing, if you're looking for "combat" then why are you even concerned about M3's resupplying? Shouldn't you be looking for airplanes? Whining about near defenseless halftracks, their best defense are you hitting a tree. The avoid combat wangs never cease to amaze me, just shut up and play the game. There are no lack of targets in the air.

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Re: Mass M3s Resupping towns need to go
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 01:05:25 PM »
This forum is confusing, if you're looking for "combat" then why are you even concerned about M3's resupplying? Shouldn't you be looking for airplanes? Whining about near defenseless halftracks, their best defense are you hitting a tree. The avoid combat wangs never cease to amaze me, just shut up and play the game. There are no lack of targets in the air.

Well aren't you touchy. I guess you're one of the GV whiners.
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